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Post by bananas on Jan 8, 2006 19:50:43 GMT -5
Personally I think its bogus. She is selling books of this talking to God, and thus she has a motive to lie. Although maybe she believes it herself on some level, but I just can't accept she is one of the chosen people on earth who God talks to. Why her and not anyone else? yes she is selling books and gives presentations but she "receives no fees, or personal material benefit for her efforts" (first page). also all her writings are available online completely free because she believes that god has told her "I have given you freely, freely give.". so there are two possibilities left, either her mind hoax her in a skilled way or she really is what she give herself out as. why god would choose to talk with this very person is a good question. what would make her so special? actually she asks this herself and to quote some of her correspondece to the vatican she says: "In the very beginning of this call, I was very confused and early, during the manifestation of my angel, this is what I said: "But I can't understand. We have already the Bible, so why do we need messages?" My angel replied: "So you do feel that all has been given in the Bible?" I responded: "Yes. That is why I do not see the reason of all this. I mean nothing is new." Then the angel said: "God wants these messages to be given." I said: "Is there a special reason why me?" The angel responded: "No. God loves you all. These messages are just a reminder to remind you how your foundations begun" (07.08.1986). " she also believes she has said and heard this: "(she:)Why did You choose me since I'm no good and only create...(interrupted) (god:)wretchedness attracts Me altogether you are nothing, nothing at all! but by being nothing I am everything you are not, for what have I as rival? I find no rival within you since you are nothing such is My delight in you daughter; " he has also said (according to her): "I chose you because you are weak, and your weakness charms Me. " also to the vatican she writes: "One could ask then, why did God call someone so limited and unworthy, totally disinterested and ignorant in church matters, who never aspired for God, to receive a "reminder of His Word?" Are not the priests and theologians called to do the same? Yes, I believe they are, and I, in no way ever intended to compete with the priests and theologians that God has called to do their duty; yet, I do believe that God has called me unexpectedly by a direct action from His part. " my point is she differs from ordinary sect leaders/weirdos etc by not raising herself to a godlike position (the only way to god is through me). she still can be crazy though (like he in fight club). but the more i read her writings the harder it is to believe she is out of her mind.
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Post by Bodhi on Jan 8, 2006 22:24:56 GMT -5
yes she is selling books and gives presentations but she "receives no fees, or personal material benefit for her efforts" (first page). also all her writings are available online completely free because she believes that god has told her "I have given you freely, freely give.". so there are two possibilities left, either her mind hoax her in a skilled way or she really is what she give herself out as. why god would choose to talk with this very person is a good question. what would make her so special? actually she asks this herself and to quote some of her correspondece to the vatican she says: "In the very beginning of this call, I was very confused and early, during the manifestation of my angel, this is what I said: "But I can't understand. We have already the Bible, so why do we need messages?" My angel replied: "So you do feel that all has been given in the Bible?" I responded: "Yes. That is why I do not see the reason of all this. I mean nothing is new." Then the angel said: "God wants these messages to be given." I said: "Is there a special reason why me?" The angel responded: "No. God loves you all. These messages are just a reminder to remind you how your foundations begun" (07.08.1986). " she also believes she has said and heard this: "(she:)Why did You choose me since I'm no good and only create...(interrupted) (god:)wretchedness attracts Me altogether you are nothing, nothing at all! but by being nothing I am everything you are not, for what have I as rival? I find no rival within you since you are nothing such is My delight in you daughter; " he has also said (according to her): "I chose you because you are weak, and your weakness charms Me. " also to the vatican she writes: "One could ask then, why did God call someone so limited and unworthy, totally disinterested and ignorant in church matters, who never aspired for God, to receive a "reminder of His Word?" Are not the priests and theologians called to do the same? Yes, I believe they are, and I, in no way ever intended to compete with the priests and theologians that God has called to do their duty; yet, I do believe that God has called me unexpectedly by a direct action from His part. " my point is she differs from ordinary sect leaders/weirdos etc by not raising herself to a godlike position (the only way to god is through me). she still can be crazy though (like he in fight club). but the more i read her writings the harder it is to believe she is out of her mind. Even if she isn't making any money, then she is just crazy. If you went to a mental hospital you'd probally see a lot of people just like her who regulary have visions of God and lots and lots of messages. I've read a couple of her messages and they seems like she has read the Bible a thousand times and is just imitating what she has read. There is nothing new in the messages, no real reason we would have to hear them. She is crazy, or just likes the attention. I would bet everything I own what she is saying in not true. I just can't envision a universe where first, this is how God talks, and second, he would only talk to this one woman.
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Post by Richard Cunningham on Jul 12, 2006 2:50:20 GMT -5
Is there a God, lets have arguements from both sides. Looking around at this disgusting, ugly, hellish planet filled with vile demons I'd say there's a devil, but no 'good' equilivant.
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Jul 12, 2006 3:27:38 GMT -5
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Post by MrNice on Jul 12, 2006 9:27:40 GMT -5
things are just getting worse in the world
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Post by Bodhi on Jul 12, 2006 9:36:07 GMT -5
things are just getting worse in the world No they're not. People always say this but forget how bad the world has been in the past. Just look a few hundred years ago and we had millions upon millions of people in the bonds of slavery. Or just look back to the 1940's and we had a huge world war that killed millions and had one of the worst atrocities in human history with the holocaust. At that time people probably thought the world was getting worse but it got better after that. I think relatively the world is at a better place than it has been in the past, although there still are huge things wrong with it and I'm not saying we live in that great a place, just better than what it has been if you look back at history.
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Post by zaab on Jul 12, 2006 11:02:28 GMT -5
Yeah, wouldn't want to be a woman or a minority in the US as few as 40 years ago. You could light many rivers on fire not too long ago and industrial cities were clouded over with smog. As few as twenty years ago some people thought that nuclear holocaust was imminent. There is plenty to be concerned about (fairly recent genocide in Africa, the effects of global warming, Bush, Iraq, the AIDS epidemic in Africa, global pandemics, the further proliferation of nuclear weapons, the depletion of oil....) But I think, overall, we've been lucky to grow up in the flush times that we have (for now, anyway).
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Post by MrNice on Jul 12, 2006 12:40:06 GMT -5
may I also add flush places
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Post by MrNice on Jul 12, 2006 13:18:49 GMT -5
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Post by phoenixferret on Jul 12, 2006 13:37:47 GMT -5
Lol, there are "evil" people in the world, but this hardly fits the bill. The woman takes away a lollipop and snaps a pic while they're throwing a fit--I doubt those kids are being emotionally scarred. They get "abused" worse than that in an average day at preschool. It doesn't take a whole lot for a toddler to be "tormented to the point of emotional outrage" as the blog in the link from that article puts it so, um, delicately. Maybe this woman should have waited for the next time their mommy tells them it's time to go to bed. Looking through the "Truly Weird And Shocking" page on CourtTV's CrimeLibrary site--especially Beverley Alitt--there's a taste of people as close to evil as anyone could get. www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/index.html It does make you wonder, with these kind of things, how anyone could possibly justify the idea that if these people simply put their faith in Jay-sus, they're going to everlasting paradise; whereas, say, Gandhi will endure everlasting torment with the rest of us unbelievers.
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Post by Crashtastic on Jul 12, 2006 17:00:37 GMT -5
....are you saying Luther is a goddess?
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Post by Samantha on Jul 12, 2006 17:10:40 GMT -5
....are you saying Luther is a goddess? I like to think it is lsdima's way of saying he worships me. Hopefully in leather chaps.
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Post by MrNice on Jul 12, 2006 17:15:12 GMT -5
silly me it was a link to the wrong post sorry to disappoint
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Post by Samantha on Jul 12, 2006 17:28:59 GMT -5
silly me it was a link to the wrong post sorry to disappoint Awww that's ok ((((((((((((lsdima)))))))))))))))))). Any chance of changing the link to the correct post... or the chaps?
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Jul 12, 2006 18:01:13 GMT -5
I like to think it is lsdima's way of saying he worships me. Hopefully in leather chaps. Which one of you are wearing the chaps?
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