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May 6, 2007 21:24:10 GMT -5
Post by Astroruss on May 6, 2007 21:24:10 GMT -5
everybody should always carry a gun, cause theres no reason we should feel less protected than other people, thats what my teacher has lead me to believe he says theres a city in Georgia where its against the law not to have a gun and its crime rate is almost none How large is this city and what was the crime rate before this law? But I have to say that I'm skeptical about your teacher's claim. Doesn't sound too constitutional like. If we're truly that paranoid that we have to carry a gun to feel safe then we're in deep trouble. Its true we live in a relatively violent nation, but what are the odds that you'll ever need that gun to defend yourself? Answered my own question. Its Kennesaw Georgia, and its true, but I don't think I'm moving to this paradise on earth. ;D en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia While i agree with you on that point Zaab, i have to say the problem extends to the limitations on the police and other investigation organizations. Police nowadays are so constrained by fears of false arrest and red tape procedures that they cannot adequately and efficfiently investigate crimes. Not to mention the huge infestation of lawyers we have in our country, and the uninformed unrestrained journalists running around everywhere reporting on scenes they hardly understand, and its no wonder that violent crime is a problem. The police cannot do their job, and are impeded if they try to do it. Before i'd ban guns, i'd ban lawyers and journalists. Or at least make them get expensive permits and pay annual fines, hehehe. ;D
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May 7, 2007 0:17:04 GMT -5
Post by zaab on May 7, 2007 0:17:04 GMT -5
How large is this city and what was the crime rate before this law? But I have to say that I'm skeptical about your teacher's claim. Doesn't sound too constitutional like. If we're truly that paranoid that we have to carry a gun to feel safe then we're in deep trouble. Its true we live in a relatively violent nation, but what are the odds that you'll ever need that gun to defend yourself? Answered my own question. Its Kennesaw Georgia, and its true, but I don't think I'm moving to this paradise on earth. ;D en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia While i agree with you on that point Zaab, i have to say the problem extends to the limitations on the police and other investigation organizations. Police nowadays are so constrained by fears of false arrest and red tape procedures that they cannot adequately and efficfiently investigate crimes. Not to mention the huge infestation of lawyers we have in our country, and the uninformed unrestrained journalists running around everywhere reporting on scenes they hardly understand, and its no wonder that violent crime is a problem. The police cannot do their job, and are impeded if they try to do it. Before i'd ban guns, i'd ban lawyers and journalists. Or at least make them get expensive permits and pay annual fines, hehehe. ;D I enjoy what's left of our freedom of speech. But I agree that I'd need a gun after journalism was banned, to shoot myself!
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May 7, 2007 0:39:05 GMT -5
Post by Sweet Pea on May 7, 2007 0:39:05 GMT -5
lol...i luv watching zaab and russ debate politics. ;D
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May 7, 2007 18:10:02 GMT -5
Post by Astroruss on May 7, 2007 18:10:02 GMT -5
lol...i luv watching zaab and russ debate politics. ;D This has nothing to do with politics; this is a social problem and Zaab and I really rack our brains trying to come up with solutions for it. ;D Besides, politics has gotten boring and dumb.
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May 7, 2007 18:22:55 GMT -5
Post by Astroruss on May 7, 2007 18:22:55 GMT -5
While i agree with you on that point Zaab, i have to say the problem extends to the limitations on the police and other investigation organizations. Police nowadays are so constrained by fears of false arrest and red tape procedures that they cannot adequately and efficfiently investigate crimes. Not to mention the huge infestation of lawyers we have in our country, and the uninformed unrestrained journalists running around everywhere reporting on scenes they hardly understand, and its no wonder that violent crime is a problem. The police cannot do their job, and are impeded if they try to do it. Before i'd ban guns, i'd ban lawyers and journalists. Or at least make them get expensive permits and pay annual fines, hehehe. ;D I enjoy what's left of our freedom of speech. But I agree that I'd need a gun after journalism was banned, to shoot myself! I'm not saying we should ban journalism. But hey, the government taxes everything else nowadays, so why not tax the journalists and lawyers? ;D Make them pay heavy fines and fees for so much talk and babble they produce on tv. This would weed out all the stupid worthless journalists who have nothing important to say. I swear, they're like annoying mosquitoes that you just cannot swat away. It sure would cut down on all the stupid bs i have to listen to on tv. TV sure was cool before i had to listen to news updates every ten minutes about what kind of cigarettes the senator is smoking, or which sandwhich the lobbyist has for lunch. The age old is saying is true where speech is concerned; less is more.
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May 7, 2007 19:40:56 GMT -5
Post by annaa on May 7, 2007 19:40:56 GMT -5
Ok it's too late and i'm too tired to read everyone's comment, so i'm going to just make my own (yeah, I realise that's just lazy).
I think guns should be made illegal everywhere. There are no circumstances, in my own view, where it's acceptable to own a gun.
I really fail to see what gives a person the right to play god. Nobody is so superior that they have the right to, potentially, take the life of any other living thing (human or animal).
Someone, wonkothesane I believe, made the point that guns are the method of a 'pussy'... Well i'd like to elaborate on that..
I'd imagine it all too easy to fire a gun without any thought behind what you're doing. And once it's been done, it's too late to do anything about it.
If someone is so desperate they want to take the life of something, I believe they should do it by hand. I know, it sounds gruesome, but i'm making a point... If someone were to kill with no aid to help the process, then I think they would soon realise the extent of just how horrific and unforgivable their actions really are.
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May 8, 2007 11:05:41 GMT -5
Post by Richard Cunningham on May 8, 2007 11:05:41 GMT -5
Someone, wonkothesane I believe, made the point that guns are the method of a 'pussy'...
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May 11, 2007 17:23:45 GMT -5
Post by annaa on May 11, 2007 17:23:45 GMT -5
Someone, wonkothesane I believe, made the point that guns are the method of a 'pussy'... Ha ha. I like that.
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May 12, 2007 23:29:10 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 12, 2007 23:29:10 GMT -5
I believe the main point with guns is if u make them illegal then u only make it harder for the normal law abiding person from protecting themselves. Criminals get things illegally,, thats the whole point . Drugs like coke and pot are illegal,,, last time I checked they are available on the street in almost any U.S. city or town. Same thing will happen with guns,, I think that most guns are gotten illegal anyhow. I read a few articles on this ,, someone said that Virgina Tech was "Gun Free" zone,, but that didn't stop the guy from shooting everyone. What if someone else was armed? They could have taken him down, maybe lessen the killing. Heres a good article www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/19/commentary.nugent/index.html
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May 13, 2007 20:15:15 GMT -5
Post by annaa on May 13, 2007 20:15:15 GMT -5
That's an interesting article.. I suppose some of the things said does justify keeping one; although isn't it just basically saying that two wrongs make a right? My post above was trying to say that it's sad that it's got to a point where average people have to protect themselves against criminals. It would be better if guns had never been made in the first place, but it's too late for that now.
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May 17, 2007 16:35:22 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 17, 2007 16:35:22 GMT -5
That's an interesting article.. I suppose some of the things said does justify keeping one; although isn't it just basically saying that two wrongs make a right? My post above was trying to say that it's sad that it's got to a point where average people have to protect themselves against criminals. It would be better if guns had never been made in the first place, but it's too late for that now. Yes guns are here to stay. Its a scary world these days,, maybe more so in U.S., lots of people just don't care anymore or have no respect. If its not guns it be knives or bats or whatever weapon. Guns are more powerful and easy to use hence why they are popular,, the physically weak can become powerful with one, maybe for some that is the draw. Its kinda like the arms race,,, they get nukes we have get them too, cause what if? I don't own a gun,, as I don't hunt or live in a very bad area, but I have considered it,,mostly for target shooting or something. Another thing with gun control is letting the government take more control, relying on the government to cure all our problems,,like obesity and stuff like that,, they want government to stop that too,,, but to me it all starts in the home and with yourself, do something be apart of the community, people are lazy here thats why were all fat, and we bitch and moan and maybe kill some people off when we don't get our way. We expect everything on a silver platter and will sue you if we don't get it. We complain about gas prices but refuse to stop driving a SUV that gets 10 mpg. Ok this is turning into a rant,,lol,, move it to the rant section if ya want. Oh yeah Bush sucks ass,,,
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May 19, 2007 15:14:51 GMT -5
Post by Astroruss on May 19, 2007 15:14:51 GMT -5
That's an interesting article.. I suppose some of the things said does justify keeping one; although isn't it just basically saying that two wrongs make a right? My post above was trying to say that it's sad that it's got to a point where average people have to protect themselves against criminals. It would be better if guns had never been made in the first place, but it's too late for that now. I think the main problem with guns is that they can be used for two things; recreation or killing. Down here in my part of the world, we have a hell of a lot of guns, but we use ours mostly for recreation, hunting and shooting and that. And our wardens and police are strict about their usage, because we know what our guns can do. Ironically enough, i'ts the bigger cities where it's possible to buy illegal weapons and use them for crime.
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May 19, 2007 20:13:40 GMT -5
Post by annaa on May 19, 2007 20:13:40 GMT -5
^ ^ I agree, it's all too easy to blame other people for things not going our own way. And yeah, Bush does suck ass. But at least he isn't such a fucking coward that he resigns when things are tough because he can't admit it's his own fault things are in such a mess. As for what Russ said about guns for recreation I suppose in a way it is good that people can be educated about them and know their power. (As long as it's not for killing animals; I don't agree with it, but then again, that's a completely different topic altogether. :
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May 19, 2007 20:45:43 GMT -5
Post by Astroruss on May 19, 2007 20:45:43 GMT -5
^ ^ I agree, it's all too easy to blame other people for things not going our own way. And yeah, Bush does suck ass. But at least he isn't such a fucking coward that he resigns when things are tough because he can't admit it's his own fault things are in such a mess. As for what Russ said about guns for recreation I suppose in a way it is good that people can be educated about them and know their power. (As long as it's not for killing animals; I don't agree with it, but then again, that's a completely different topic altogether. : I'm a bit mixed about Bush, i admit. He's too conservative for me, but i do agree with most of his policies and his choices of administrators. Plus, i hate his opposition much more than i dislike him, so that's why i continue to support him to this day. I believe that if the country is put into the hands of politicians like Senator Clinton and Kennedy and the like, the country will go financially bankrupt while trying to support programs that we cannot afford. Social change should come gradually, and only when we can afford to do so. If one cannot to buy a product, one should not buy it. I also do not particularly care for all the empty criticism i hear being cranked out by these crazy. We should be working harder and smarter to fix things, not trying to assign blame everywhere and on everyone. Of course, i do have mixed feelings about the war and i worry that it will evolve into a larger conflcit. I also do not believe we should continue to support radical nations like Israel; they seem to be the cause of much resentment over there. Just my two cents, hehehehe.
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May 19, 2007 20:47:20 GMT -5
Post by Astroruss on May 19, 2007 20:47:20 GMT -5
Wait, are yall referring to some British politicians too? If so, i'd like to hear more. I like to try to stay informed about what's going on in the world, so tell me more about.
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