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Post by shypsychologyguy on Jan 12, 2006 21:23:13 GMT -5
some people are not army material. some people have to stay behind.
when I got out of high school the thought of leaving home scared me. I would have gone to FSU or UF but I could not stand the idea of leaving my family who at the time were all I had. I also had two scholarships that covered my schooling plus some. To give up would have probly broken me down mentally and emotionally. My dad was drafted in vietnam and advised me not join though I never considered it.
I have thought about going in for grad school as a officer but that doesnt really intrest me.
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Post by wagnerr on Jan 12, 2006 22:46:14 GMT -5
Russ are you antisemitic? I believe that if a bunch of uneducated radical fundamentalist that hijack a culture and a people and use that to kill Innocent men women and children like hammas and other terrorist do to the Palestinian people than Israel has to do what it has to do period. They cant think about innocence because they have been raped of theirs and will always have to look over their shoulders. Okay, i'm a little insulted by this question, man. If i were anti-semtic, i wouldn't have been able to work alongside two Conservative Jews for three years at school, nor have a rabbi student for a good friend. We don't always get along, of course; he's a Packers fan, for God's sake!!! ;D But we do respect each other and hang occasionally. I am definitely anti-Zionist, that's for sure.
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Post by Samantha on Jan 13, 2006 10:31:00 GMT -5
I am definitely anti-Zionist, that's for sure. Me too. Zionism is political, not religious.
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Post by wonkothesane on Jan 13, 2006 16:25:43 GMT -5
some people are not army material. some people have to stay behind. when I got out of high school the thought of leaving home scared me. I would have gone to FSU or UF but I could not stand the idea of leaving my family who at the time were all I had. I also had two scholarships that covered my schooling plus some. To give up would have probly broken me down mentally and emotionally. My dad was drafted in vietnam and advised me not join though I never considered it. I have thought about going in for grad school as a officer but that doesnt really intrest me. Anybody can be army material all you have do do is die when somebody tells you - it's not that hard. Ofcourse Zionism is religious- its political goals are religiously inspired
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Post by pansy on Jan 13, 2006 16:38:50 GMT -5
Anybody can be army material all you have do do is die when somebody tells you - it's not that hard. hence the phrase 'cannon fodder'.
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Post by MrNice on Jan 13, 2006 16:44:26 GMT -5
most people are army material after bootcamp thats the whole point of the bootcamp - to weed out all the crap you grow up with and make a soldier as long as you are physically able and mentally capable of following orders, everything else is irrelevant. Here is an interesting article www.killology.com/art_teach_killing.htm
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Post by shypsychologyguy on Jan 13, 2006 20:35:59 GMT -5
at the time my mom had had a heart attack and so I felt I needed to be with the family rather than go away to college much less the military.
if you have seen Platoon I think it is you will see a guy blow his brains out after bootcampp from being bullied and hazed and all that suff they are put through. I would have ended like that guy being that I was bullied throught high school and still was very much affected by it to the point that it could be labeled PTSD
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Post by KidCharlemagne on Jan 13, 2006 20:44:59 GMT -5
Kinda off topic, but for some reason the military of the Roman times appeals to me. I'd have made a good legionary (or is that legionaire?).
Nowadays though, the military of western countries at least, seem more like policemen. Which doesn't appeal. I guess its because armies are rarely used for expansionary purposes, but to enforce regime change. Frankly i'd rather fight battles than be shot at by a population that hates me all day long.
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Post by shytothebone on Jan 14, 2006 4:18:55 GMT -5
at the time my mom had had a heart attack and so I felt I needed to be with the family rather than go away to college much less the military. if you have seen Platoon I think it is you will see a guy blow his brains out after bootcampp from being bullied and hazed and all that suff they are put through. I would have ended like that guy being that I was bullied throught high school and still was very much affected by it to the point that it could be labeled PTSD That wasnt Platton that the guy blew his brians out that was Full Metal Jacket.
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Post by lowselfesteem on Jan 14, 2006 5:34:59 GMT -5
Kinda off topic, but for some reason the military of the Roman times appeals to me. I'd have made a good legionary (or is that legionaire?). Nowadays though, the military of western countries at least, seem more like policemen. Which doesn't appeal. I guess its because armies are rarely used for expansionary purposes, but to enforce regime change. Frankly i'd rather fight battles than be shot at by a population that hates me all day long. Yeah, sounds like fun. ;D Getting in close and stabbing people to death, hoping that they don't manage to kill you in the process. And you don't have to serve for long, only for 20 years after which you get some really poor quality farm land as a pension. Those were the days.
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Post by KidCharlemagne on Jan 14, 2006 12:04:37 GMT -5
Kinda off topic, but for some reason the military of the Roman times appeals to me. I'd have made a good legionary (or is that legionaire?). Nowadays though, the military of western countries at least, seem more like policemen. Which doesn't appeal. I guess its because armies are rarely used for expansionary purposes, but to enforce regime change. Frankly i'd rather fight battles than be shot at by a population that hates me all day long. Yeah, sounds like fun. ;D Getting in close and stabbing people to death, hoping that they don't manage to kill you in the process. And you don't have to serve for long, only for 20 years after which you get some really poor quality farm land as a pension. Those were the days. Well when you put it like that...
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Post by MrNice on Jan 15, 2006 19:37:40 GMT -5
I don't think so. Yes, a VERY SMALL percentage brakes down. But chances are you wouldn't. Just because there is people alot worse off then you in the bulied department so they would be more likely to break down and statistically speaking they would fill the quota
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Post by romaramabanana on Jan 19, 2006 17:31:42 GMT -5
Zionism is wrong because it discriminates against people who are not Jewish. There are Jews only roads, people get expelled from their homes all the time, children who throw stones are shot, and oppression is the tool of choice to deal with the 'demographic problem', which is a term for the problem in Israel where a large percentage of the population is not Jewish. All of this madness has nothing to do with the Jewish religion. As far as I know, the Jewish religion is a peaceful, beautiful faith to follow, and all of these terrorist actions by the government of Israel are violating the terms of this beautiful religion.
Besides disrimination against non Jews, even within the Jewish community in Israel there is also discrimination against oriental, Sephardic Jews. Ashkenazi, or European Jews are treated better arbitrarily, as they are part of the upper class there.
I think all of this is part of the Zionist mindset and framework, which is very conscious of the differences between people and not their similarities.
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Post by mere phantom on Jan 19, 2006 22:34:20 GMT -5
Fox news does nothing but try to make Bush and the republicans look good no matter what is going on, its the most biased station on the air
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Post by MrNice on Jan 19, 2006 22:46:51 GMT -5
you can't separate religion from people 'zionism' is rooted in the belief that the land of Israel belongs to the chosen people - the Jews
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