Should the bro have tased him?

[lennythegiant]

I'm talking about the guy who got tasered at the Kerry thing.

I think the police should restrict their use of tasers a little more, because tasering the wrong person could kill them. However, the guy did resist arrest and put up a struggle, so the police were right to arrest him and use force to arrest him if he was resisting. However, the force was a little excessive, just because the possible dangers of a taser.

[Astroruss]

I think there's much more of chance of being killed with a gun than a taser.

I think police should carry tasers. I'd rather take my chances with a taser over a 45 or a 9mm anyday.

Besides, i don't think police brutality is so common as the fucking media makes it out to be. Policemen, in our country, are very well trained and proffessional. They are put under a hell of a lot of stress and pressured situations, and anybody can make a mistake in a situation like that. They also have the law against them with the burden of proof, so all the fucker scumbags get away on technicalities.

Maybe these dumb reporters should undergo some police training and self defense lessons some, and see how well they do. get whacked around a bit. Perhaps then they'd be less impulsive with their empty criticisms.

Hell, i'd like to see some of these fucking reporters get some background checks on them and all the mistakes they've made. Hehehe, if i ever accumulate enough money i'll produce a show about that!

Hmmm, now what about a title? Maybe, "World's Most Irresponsible Reporters Get Knocked Around A Bit"? I bet it'd get a hell of a lot of ratings!

[phoenixferret]

I just watched the video, and it kinda looks to me like the guy deserved it. He was ranting, and I don't know about "inciting a riot," as someone mentioned in the YouTube comments, but it certainly *looked* like he was trying to stir up trouble, more than contribute to civilized discussion. And does the guy look to anyone else like he could be a little drunk or something..? Maybe just excited.

And then once they started grabbing him--oh, sweet jebus, what an idiot! You can hear the police telling him, "Stop, or you'll be tased. STOP, or you'll be tased" as he's flailing around on the ground. And yeah, being tasered seems maybe harsh... but I have to wonder what else they could have done in that situation. Allowing people to resist arrest just doesn't work in the short or the long term, and I think there needs to be *some* way to end a protracted struggle. I guess they could use those whack-sticks, but I dunno how effective that'd be; I dunno what kind of a track record they have; and I think the resultant bruises, filmed in high-def, could cause more public outrage even if it was actually less painful and less dangerous than using a taser.

So I guess there's another question in this: what should the police do in a situation like this? For myself, I really don't know.

[Sweet Pea]

seems the moral of the story to that vid is don't walk into a public forum and express an unpopular opinion or ask an unpopular question or you may be led away by police. if you don't go quietly, you may be tased. some people get a bit excited when they're expressing themselves and someone tries to stop them. this guy raised his voice a bit, but i thought the reaction was definitely excessive. Kerry wanted to answer his questions, and i would have liked to hear the answers myself.

[MrNice]

yeah its funny, kerry actually started answering the question while the guy was being tased in the back

[lennythegiant]

superruss said:

I think there's much more of chance of being killed with a gun than a taser.

Absolutely, but there's always the freak chance you could hurt someone badly if they have a heart condition.

[Astrodog]

lennythegiant said:

superruss said:

I think there's much more of chance of being killed with a gun than a taser.

Absolutely, but there's always the freak chance you could hurt someone badly if they have a heart condition.

And a gun wouldn't do the same thing, only worse?

I don't know, i disagree with Russ.

I hate guns. They put us hunting dogs out of business. And i refuse to join the Pointers' Union, no thanks. I'm not paying those excessive dues.

[HybridMoment]

I'm surprised this hasn't happened more often, college students love to heckle people that come to speak at their school and I think that's great.

The force was a little excessive, but the police were right in using it. The kid didn't suffer too badly either, he even later told the police, "You didn't do anything wrong" and he probably likes the internet publicity.

[theinfiniteabyss84]

I don't think he should have been tased. I didn't watch the entire video and without sound (I am at work) but I think the police acted excessively. If he was running up to the stage and acted threatningly then I would see where they would use it. But in this instance it seemed they were on a bit of a power trip and tased an overzealous guy.

[lennythegiant]

superdog said:

lennythegiant said:

Absolutely, but there's always the freak chance you could hurt someone badly if they have a heart condition.

And a gun wouldn't do the same thing, only worse?

I guess people with heart conditions should just make sure to stay out of trouble.

Anyway, some kids were protesting at one point and being annoying. I think some people just like to protest about anything because they like to be loud and annoying.

[annaa]

I saw this video a while ago and it disturbed me. There was absoluted no need to tase him.
It seemed he had no warning for it (I mean the police didn't exactly say "carry on like this and you'll be tased") - I may be mistaken though.

Freedom of speech is a myth anyway.

[Astroruss]

lennythegiant said:

superdog said:

And a gun wouldn't do the same thing, only worse?

I guess people with heart conditions should just make sure to stay out of trouble.

Anyway, some kids were protesting at one point and being annoying. I think some people just like to protest about anything because they like to be loud and annoying.

Yep, and if it were up to me, i'd swat all of them with a stick and really give them soemthing to cry about. Then they're not just standing around and bitching for no reason.

Sorry, but loud and annoying people need to remember their right to remain silent.


And yes, people with heart conditions should stay out of trouble.

[lennythegiant]

I just wish protestors would be a little pickier with their battles. They seem to back a lot of people that don't really deserve the attention.

[Astroruss]

lennythegiant said:

I just wish protestors would be a little pickier with their battles. They seem to back a lot of people that don't really deserve the attention.

Yep, it's true that the people who complain the most recieve a lot of attention.

Protestors have alsways struck me as ridiculous. What the hell do they think they can accomplish by standing out in the street waving signs around? That's not the way to change things or get proposals considered in our kind of society. That kind of mob protest only gets them power by fiat, power derived from numbers and force, not from intelligence and organized presentations.

Instead of encouraging people to 'peacefully protest', whatever the hell that means, perhaps citizens should meet and propose their demands in a much more productive way, one that would get some serious respect and consideration. City councils and public offices offer one kind of positive alternative.

Standing outside and yelling at me from the street would hardly get my respect and regard. I'd throw rocks at them, maybe, but not listen to their demands. These mobs never can do anything productively. Perhaps selected representatives of the mob would do a much better job?

It's much easier to listen to one or two people than listen to a mob crowd of five thousand.

[Naptaq]

I thought it was grossly unfair when I first saw it. Then I gathered more info and in one video I saw him holding the sign containing a spoiler of Harry Potter like that day after the book came out. And the overreaction when police tried to take him away from hogging up the mic and disrupting the forum.

Sure the tasering may've been an overkill but what are you gonna do with a whinning 20 something old baby like him? lol. I think he's a jackass that planned to disrupt things that day.