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May 1, 2010 22:33:51 GMT -5
Post by crasscrab on May 1, 2010 22:33:51 GMT -5
Do you think you deserve living? Do you think anything would change if you were gone?
I'm just wondering what you guys think about your lives. Sometimes I feel like mine has no point,but I'm too lazy and scared to end it.
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May 2, 2010 0:24:23 GMT -5
Post by collectcall on May 2, 2010 0:24:23 GMT -5
To be honest with you, i've thought about this issue a lot, and well, the most honest answer ive heard goes something like this:
Do you think you deserve living? No, not in the sense that there is something special about me that requires me to exist in the world. I think the universe would go on fairly well without me. NO, in the sense that i am meant to be here, that i was put here for a reason.
DO you think anything would change if I were gone? Well, things would be a little bit different, in the sense that i take up a certain amount of space and resources, and that amount would be different if i werent here. Also i think we all have some kind of impact on those close to us, our families, friends, acquaintances and so on ... and if we werent there the impact on those people would be very different, depending on how close you are. But in a broader sense, i think, my particular existence is essentially insignificant.
But now that ive torn down my own meaning in the world, there needs to be a way of building it back up, or the inevitable question of ending it all would seem to be the only answer. And i think this is where it gets interesting.
Once I assert that i have no particular significance in the world, then what is left? well its just me, pretty much. And what i value. and if the universe cant throw a meaning on the world and on myself, then the only meaning comes from me. I choose what has value in life, because it can't come from anywhere else.
And well, it might occur to you that that's a very fickle sense of meaning, and it may be... but consider this. We choose things in many ways, through behaviour, ideas, and emotions - and many of those things, are common to all of us. So we may all admit that when we think in a broad sense we have no meaning, no significance in the world. But there are still times which are worthwhile ... think about the last time you were really happy, or you felt you succeeded in something, just think about a positive memory ... can we really tell ourselves that it has no meaning to us? and maybe even to others, who are just like us? and even if our lives are filled with noting but misery and suffering we can always look to the future - to the hope that at some point we'll really have a meaningful moment.
THat might not sound like much ... but it has to be enough, because that's all there is. And meaning if measured through us and not given by anyone or anything else, at least, thats what ive come to understand.
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May 15, 2010 2:40:02 GMT -5
Post by oopqoo on May 15, 2010 2:40:02 GMT -5
I've thought about suicide so many times in my life. As in... there are some weeks when I think about what would change. I know my parents and sister would miss me but I don't know who else. Maybe my aunt and uncle, and the dog might be upset. But it's not as if I ever had real friends in school. That's what I've thought, but everytime I am thinking of doing it something interrupts me.
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