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Post by pnoopiepnats on Nov 2, 2005 9:28:28 GMT -5
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Post by ellis on Nov 2, 2005 19:41:55 GMT -5
The whole article is garbage. Its an obvious contradiction along with being a clear apology for morons who are incompetent at their job function but good at kissing butts.
The contradiction comes in when they tell to basically BS people by pretending you like them and are interested in their lives and what they like to do. Nothing could be further from the truth! Nothing could be further from "keeping it real" And then they have the temerity to finish the article with this gem:
Step Four: Keep It Real
Realness is consistency between your beliefs and actions. To be true to yourself and others, you need to:
Do what you want to be doing in life.
Live with purpose.
Commit to the principles of your work.
Be the same person on the outside as you are on the inside.
Be direct and honest with others.
Yeah right. I could barely read that thing because of the nausea. Ploppy I am sorry if you like this article and support it. I have a different opinion and based on my experience its hard to take these lies.
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Nov 2, 2005 20:03:28 GMT -5
The whole article is garbage. Its an obvious contradiction along with being a clear apology for morons who are incompetent at their job function but good at kissing butts. The contradiction comes in when they tell to basically BS people by pretending you like them and are interested in their lives and what they like to do. Nothing could be further from the truth! Nothing could be further from "keeping it real" And then they have the temerity to finish the article with this gem:
Step Four: Keep It Real
Realness is consistency between your beliefs and actions. To be true to yourself and others, you need to:
Do what you want to be doing in life.
Live with purpose.
Commit to the principles of your work.
Be the same person on the outside as you are on the inside.
Be direct and honest with others.
Yeah right. I could barely read that thing because of the nausea. Ploppy I am sorry if you like this article and support it. I have a different opinion and based on my experience its hard to take these lies. Well I don't follow this because I can't force myself to kiss ass. From all the years in the workforce, I have seen that butt kissers win. Ass kissing works. |
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Post by ellis on Nov 2, 2005 21:10:48 GMT -5
It definently accomplishes something, I agree. I would not reccomend that people ass kiss their ways into a management positions. Because I don't think they would like it very much when they got there. Everyone would know why they were there, and they would be obliged to basically be someone's whipping boy essentially in order to continue.
But then I guess there is the bigger paycheck
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Post by sushiboat on Nov 2, 2005 21:32:05 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks that being friendly (as the article suggests) is kissing ass has serious problems. You can take a warm and genuine interest in other people and still let them know when they are out of line or making a mistake. That's what real friends do.
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Post by ellis on Nov 2, 2005 22:03:18 GMT -5
Yes you can take a warm and genuine interest in other people. You even may take one. You have the hypothetical ability and the permission. What the article suggests is that you gain a personal advantage in the workplace by manipulating people into liking you via the method of being friendly to them whether you genuinely want to or not. Whatever that is, it is hardly "keeping it real" as the author suggests. Furthermore, try going to work and telling your manager or boss that he is out of line. Do that even once and he probably will lose his "warm and genuine" interest in you - if he is the average person.
Now if the article had suggested we be nice and interested in all people in life in general when we have nothing to gain that would be a different story. But clearly, he or she is offering advice for getting ahead. This is not the type of article it seems you think it is.
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Post by sushiboat on Nov 2, 2005 22:28:13 GMT -5
Most people like other people as a default. However, they may have problems expressing warmth. The article gives specific behaviors that will allow them to express that warmth. If you are saying that the article won't work for misanthropes, who don't like most people, you are right. To a misanthrope, such actions would be fake and manipulative.
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Post by ellis on Nov 2, 2005 22:50:59 GMT -5
What I'm saying is the obvious. You're point of view is naive.
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Post by MrNice on Nov 2, 2005 23:16:55 GMT -5
This was absolutely true in my previous workplace
It makes sense that when people like you you get ahead. There is no arguing about it.
Charisma is everything.
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Post by ellis on Nov 4, 2005 23:05:55 GMT -5
It counts for a lot that is true. I like to think, however, that if I had my own business I would take people based on merit whether I liked them personally or not. Being professional and good at their jobs would be the major concerns.
That's just me though and I know I am not the normal person.
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