MC
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Post by MC on Oct 24, 2006 1:49:50 GMT -5
Is that your Yahoo instant messenger or MSN?
Although I have a 4.0 GPA, I never really consider myself "smart." For example, I never have the willingness to tackle crazy hard problems (I rarely work them out however much time I spend) or do well in any competition kinda things (I've done math and programming competitions). But I guess in a "relative" way, I'm still smarter than some.
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Post by Tal on Oct 24, 2006 5:56:48 GMT -5
It's still better to be intelligent and lonely than of average or below-average intelligence and lonely.
I can believe this. However, its not just a one way thing. The 'dumber' people have to deal with feeling inferior (sometimes, not all the time) when in the presence of those lucky enough to have a higher IQ. I know in the past I've felt very jealous towards people of higher intelligence and ability...and we all know were jealousy leads...anger, resentment, etc
However, if you have two people with the right balance of humility and self-esteem, the intelligence gap won't really matter too much.
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Post by Rose on Oct 24, 2006 9:09:28 GMT -5
Smartness can suck. I've never really been one to brag about myself as smart...god no. Most people like smart people or enjoy their company. But it can get hard. I read something today that really made me upset--apparently, people have a hard time communicating with individuals either thirty points above or below their own personal IQ. To put it bluntly, the smarter person has to "dumb down" their words and feelings to the level of the other person. Agony. I know that I'm not the only one that this "giftedness" has affected...if you are one of the lucky, please, contact me. (addy below) My typical days now consist of a)sitting in front of a computer screen, researching new things, b)doing my homework, or c)sitting silently as I drudge through my school-days. GOD...how do people deal with loneliness and dispair? -MSB mattseanbachman@yahoo.com I know this is nuts, but I can't help feeling slightly put down after reading this...lol. I feel dumb all the time... Maybe that's why I'm so bad at talking to nearly everyone I meet.
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Post by Stranger on Oct 24, 2006 18:40:10 GMT -5
Smartness can suck. I've never really been one to brag about myself as smart...god no. Most people like smart people or enjoy their company. But it can get hard. I read something today that really made me upset--apparently, people have a hard time communicating with individuals either thirty points above or below their own personal IQ. To put it bluntly, the smarter person has to "dumb down" their words and feelings to the level of the other person. Agony. I know that I'm not the only one that this "giftedness" has affected...if you are one of the lucky, please, contact me. (addy below) My typical days now consist of a)sitting in front of a computer screen, researching new things, b)doing my homework, or c)sitting silently as I drudge through my school-days. GOD...how do people deal with loneliness and dispair? -MSB mattseanbachman@yahoo.com Agony? Aww, come on, are we really that intolerable? How do you feel about speaking to people that don't speak/understand English too well? As in, do you find that similarly agonizing? What if you thought of it as an achievement when you managed to communicate with one of these non-"gifted" people? It's up to you how you view talking with the masses, but if you actually would like to do it better, then perhaps thinking of it as a way to improve rather than a curse or horrid chore might make it more appealing.
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Post by Rose on Oct 24, 2006 20:07:48 GMT -5
K, first that was my email addy/AIM/MSN...but I'm never on msn, so either email me or get on AIM...if you want, of course. I didn't mean to put you down; in retrospect, there's really no way of writing this without sounding arrogent. I wish I hadn't even written this. Hey no worries...
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Post by saphron on Oct 24, 2006 23:36:37 GMT -5
I think there is a realistic smart and book smart. Theres geniuses out there that can do the hardest math problems but can't tie there shoes right. I think I'm more realistic. I try to think realistically about things. I was never good at math or anything like that.
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Post by nats on Oct 25, 2006 8:03:41 GMT -5
I think there is a realistic smart and book smart. Theres geniuses out there that can do the hardest math problems but can't tie there shoes right. I think I'm more realistic. I try to think realistically about things. I was never good at math or anything like that. lol if i'm anything i'm book smart. I'm so ditzy in real life, my memory is terrible, and i'm so dumb. But i can relate stupid facts that don't matter, and i tend to think a lot about randomt hings, i always did well in school. I have no common sense
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Post by skyhint on Oct 25, 2006 12:51:18 GMT -5
You know, I do kind of fear talking to people who don't speak english well. Its because Im afraid I will have to repeat myself, which means saying twice as much, which means twice the amount of nervousness that comes when I talk to english speakers.
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Post by alwaysalone on Oct 27, 2006 16:12:05 GMT -5
K, first that was my email addy/AIM/MSN...but I'm never on msn, so either email me or get on AIM...if you want, of course. I didn't mean to put you down; in retrospect, there's really no way of writing this without sounding arrogent. I wish I hadn't even written this. Sorry if this offends you (or anyone else on here), but you spelled "arrogant" wrong- lol! I do, however, agree with you that it's hard to discuss what you're discussing without sounding that way. I know this is subjective, but may I ask you, "What is your Intelligence Quotient" ? I assume you've gotten tested and that you have a number? (Again, I mean no offense nor disrespect, just curious) I had (years ago) an I.Q.of 130, but again, that was many years ago (age 17), and it's probably lower now - lol! I realize that I. Q. is not the end all and be all of intelligence. A person can be intelligent in other ways other than or besides I. Q. There is also "Emotional Quotient" as well, as was discussed on Oprah a few years ago. It would be interesting if (and maybe scientists and doctors HAVE done this, I don't know), they would put a new definition of Intelligence Quotient, which would encompass not only mental, but all aspects - social, emotional, physical, mental, and Spiritual. And then come up with a number to represent how each person tested did (a sum of all 5 aspects above). I'm not that good at math, but I put a sort of semblance of the above in my mind and I use a number that represents the population of the Earth - what is it now? 6 or 7 billion (I don't know, but I'm sure you on here know what it is). My theory is the person who has done the best of all 5 would receive a mark or number which is low (closest to #1 - like the number 1 song on a top 100 countdown) and the person who has done the worst in his/her life would receive a number nearer to the number which is the number for the population of the Earth on any given day. I grade myself in particular quite close to this HIGH number. (I said this theory on another post, a science fiction forum, but the poor blokes misunderstood me, lol!) I give myself a HIGH number because in my theory, a high number represents a low overall life (I know this is contradictory) score. And a low-number represents a HIGH overall life score. There was a children's show on in the early 70s which had some military? or something like that, and the ranking system was such, that the higher the person's [military? or whatever] rank, such as Captain or Sargeant, the lower their number was (like G-1 or G-2) and the lower they were in rank or office, the higher their number was like G-15, etc. So that's what I'm getting at when I use my own particular number/rank theory above. Also, when I went to high school, especially in junior high (grades 8 and 9 where I lived), when we got our report card, we received a "rank" also. And this also corresponds to the above in which the better grades we got, the lower our rank # was, and the lower our grades were, the higher our rank # was.
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Post by annaa on Nov 14, 2006 21:54:28 GMT -5
I disagree that you describe being smart as lucky. I see it as a curse. I've always been told that I was 'very bright' and 'an able pupil'. I've found it really affected my social life. Sometimes in class I would be made to work at a desk on my own (not because I was distracting but because other children were distracting me) which only reinforced my feeling of lonliness. Because I felt so different from other children my anxiety around them started to get worse and worse. When I got to secondary school I became pretty ill (mentally) and I had a home tutor right up until I took my GCSE's. I passed them (with flying colours). But now i'm only still in contact with one friend, who isn't as smart as me. It is very difficult to have a conversation with her because she's always asking me "what does that word mean?". I don't how know to deal with the despair and loneliness... Not in a healthy way, anyway.
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Post by dog on Nov 17, 2006 3:25:32 GMT -5
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Post by alwaysalone on Nov 17, 2006 15:46:22 GMT -5
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Post by mrblank on Jan 10, 2007 3:34:23 GMT -5
I think I'm very dimwitted. So, I tend to keep to myself--in hopes that people don't initiate a conversation with me.
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Post by Stranger on Jan 10, 2007 7:28:39 GMT -5
You know, I do kind of fear talking to people who don't speak english well. Its because Im afraid I will have to repeat myself, which means saying twice as much, which means twice the amount of nervousness that comes when I talk to english speakers. I guess it'd depend on the situation for me. I was imagining a tourist or something asking for help, or trying to make chit-chat. I think when I'm in a position where I feel I might be able to help someone I tend to step out of my shell a bit more. It might also be that with a language barrier, there's more likelihood of a cultural barrier too, so I might seem a bit less strange to them. But on the other hand, if I can't understand them very well, or they can't understand me very well, then yeah, it becomes a bit of a battle.
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Post by naganuma on Jan 10, 2007 11:48:25 GMT -5
i can relate to having to dumb things down but i also find it really irritating how some people learn complicated words just for the sake of it. i mean parenthesis yeah that means round brackets... wow just say round brackets or scientists who can take a relatively simple concept and then rewrite it so noone with a IQ under 200 can make any sense of it.
I can also relate to diffrent kinds of smartness. most people can get smart just by reading lots and lots of things doing research etc i consider myself just more logically smart in that my thought process is quite complex so i tend to make better decisions then most people. Then theres also being emotionally smart.
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