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Post by Cheesum on Jul 16, 2007 16:49:17 GMT -5
Nope, not spam or anything like that, read on. It's been a few months now, can't remember exactly when or how I came across this website but I feel that some of you might benefit from reading it so here goes: www.succeedsocially.comReading the content is basically like having a distant buddy who recovered from being a social retard, telling you like it is; no miracle, no bullshit, no life-changing experience or anything, just slow and gradual betterment. Mind you, the stories are written from a guy's perspective so they might not exactly be adequate for female readers even though I'm sure that there are many things they can relate to. Reading the entire website makes for a long read to be sure so just bookmark it and read a few subjects one day and come back another. This will also allow you to process the interesting tidbits you might have read instead of just nodding along as you voraciously dissect the content only to end up a couple days later not remembering anything.
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Post by airburst on Jul 17, 2007 3:48:24 GMT -5
That's a good website. The owner is also a poster on these forums.
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Post by tubes on Aug 2, 2007 8:27:19 GMT -5
very cool site! very detailed which is gd
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Post by airburst on Mar 6, 2008 23:03:36 GMT -5
Here's another site from the guy who runs Succeed Socially. Dating GroundworkIt's a lot like Succeed Socially, except that it focuses more on dating, sex, and relationships.
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Post by annaa on Mar 6, 2008 23:20:06 GMT -5
Here's another site from the guy who runs Succeed Socially. Dating GroundworkIt's a lot like SS, except that it focuses more on dating and relationships. *clings on to Air Burst for dear life* Noooo! Don't do it.... don't be brainwashed by that sort of thing - you do know some of it can be damaging?
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Post by airburst on Mar 6, 2008 23:44:16 GMT -5
Here's another site from the guy who runs Succeed Socially. Dating GroundworkIt's a lot like SS, except that it focuses more on dating and relationships. *clings on to Air Burst for dear life* Noooo! Don't do it.... don't be brainwashed by that sort of thing - you do know some of it can be damaging? Ummm...I'm confused. I'm not really sure what "that sort of thing" is.
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Post by annaa on Mar 6, 2008 23:47:06 GMT -5
*clings on to Air Burst for dear life* Noooo! Don't do it.... don't be brainwashed by that sort of thing - you do know some of it can be damaging? Ummm...I'm confused. I'm not really sure what "that sort of thing" is. It's alright.. I noticed this page on the site. www.datinggroundwork.com/community What I meant before was, don't let "the community" make you weird.
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Post by airburst on Mar 7, 2008 0:01:01 GMT -5
Ummm...I'm confused. I'm not really sure what "that sort of thing" is. It's alright.. I noticed this page on the site. www.datinggroundwork.com/community What I meant before was, don't let "the community" make you weird. Actually, I don't think that article paints the Fast Seduction community in a very good light.
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Post by annaa on Mar 7, 2008 0:07:36 GMT -5
Actually, I don't think that article paints the Fast Seduction community in a very good light. That's because it can't be painted in a "good light". It can potentially mess guys up - just as the article says. Sorry, I didn't want to get into a debate about it with you. You just seem a decent enough guy and i'd hate for that seduction shit to ruin you. *Why aren't there any of these types of sites aimed at women? It would be interesting to see one for comparison, and then ask the guys on here how they feel about what's being said.
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Post by Sweet Pea on Mar 7, 2008 10:46:40 GMT -5
interesting article. he states here my biggest concern about the seduction sites: "...many guys can make more progress towards doing better with women by improving their basic social skills and personality, and overcoming the anxieties that prevent them from trying to meet women. Trying to become a player without this foundation of attractiveness can just sidetrack them, because they're not addressing their core problems." i think too many guys waste their time on these formulaic approaches to women, and don't get the help they need with their basic underlying issues. i've seen most of the things he writes about in this page happen to people myself. especially the coming off super weird part.
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Post by MrNice on Mar 7, 2008 10:51:16 GMT -5
this type of stuff has been all over women's magazines for a very long time how do I feel about it? Don't care I don't understand why you feel so threatened by it - after all if you think its all shit and nonsense and 'wouldn't work on you' there should be no problem
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Post by Sweet Pea on Mar 7, 2008 11:12:29 GMT -5
part of improving your social skills is trying things that you haven't done before whether it is related to seduction or not, sometimes you will come off weird and thats just part of the learning process People have brains that let them figure out when they are being weird and when they are doing something right yeah, sure. but sorry...some of the things these people are recommending are just...plain...weird. period. and if you do them, the average person will see you as weird. and like i said, it won't help address underlying issues that need to be addressed.
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Post by MrNice on Mar 7, 2008 11:26:12 GMT -5
of course it would help its part of the learning process if you keep doing something and it comes off as weird then you either missing something or it really is weird - in either case, as a human being you have the ability to do something else or to figure out what you are doing wrong its called learning
most often though its the other way around - you do something that you think is weird but in reality its not - so you learn that you are not as weird/creepy as you thought
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Post by Sweet Pea on Mar 7, 2008 11:34:39 GMT -5
of course it would help its part of the learning process if you keep doing something and it comes off as weird then you either missing something or it really is weird - in either case, as a human being you have the ability to do something else or to figure out what you are doing wrong its called learning most often though its the other way around - you do something that you think is weird but in reality its not - so you learn that you are not as weird/creepy as you thought i'm assuming you don't get hit on by devotees of the seduction gurus, but do you come into contact with them in real life in other ways? do you have friends you go out with to practice your latest techniques? do you attend meetings? just wondering what kind of exposure you've had to people following this type of advice. one of the things i have run across, as a woman, when i've encountered guys employing seduction techniques is a lifeless, robotic delivery style of communicating. you know anyone like that?
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Post by MrNice on Mar 7, 2008 13:05:55 GMT -5
a guy does not have to be a devotee of a community or have special friends to go practice techniques with or attend meetings to find usefully information in 'that type of advice' to improve his dating life - which is what happened to the guy in the article - he did mention that he wouldn't be with his girlfriend without it
I am hard pressed to believe that you actually encountered community guys employing seduction techniques. The age category for this type of thing is usually early/mid 20s and mostly practiced in bar/club scene. Additionally, the number of people that practice this is very small compared to the male population at large. Can you give an example? I am interested to what you are referring to when you say 'seduction techniques'?
in any case - lifeless robotic delivery style communication is bad. no argument there. No one is claiming that its good.
very good website btw this guy explains many things very well
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