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Post by phoenixferret on Oct 8, 2007 0:27:53 GMT -5
I think some people just like to protest about anything because they like to be loud and annoying. I kinda tend to think so, too, lol. In fact I think protesting in general is a really strange phenomenon these days. I don't think it generally accomplishes much at all, especially now that people seem ready to break out the picket signs over absolutely anything. It's lost all of its impact, if it had much to begin with; now it seems to be little more than silly spectacle and an excuse to get loud and feel righteous about it. A big march on Washington, a real *event* may be effective, but just marching around on a median with a catchy slogan--what's that gonna do, really?  I saw this video a while ago and it disturbed me. There was absoluted no need to tase him. No need to *arrest* him, maybe. But once they decided to make the arrest and he kept running, what else should they have done? Does anyone have an alternative? Putting aside the fairness or unfairness of the arrest itself, what should the police do when a person doesn't cooperate? If you turn up the sound on the video, you can hear that the woman kneeling at his head (when they're holding him down) warns him clearly to stop struggling or he'll be tased. I think she says it a few times, if I recall. Does that affect your opinion? I thought it was grossly unfair when I first saw it. Then I gathered more info and in one video I saw him holding the sign containing a spoiler of Harry Potter like that day after the book came out. And the overreaction when police tried to take him away from hogging up the mic and disrupting the forum. Sure the tasering may've been an overkill but what are you gonna do with a whinning 20 something old baby like him? lol. I think he's a jackass that planned to disrupt things that day. Haha, yeah, that was pretty much my reaction--he acted like a naughty five-year-old, with the twisting motion and the silly run and the wailing... yeesh. And of course now that I know he tried to spoil Harry Potter, I think he got off easy with just one little tase. Shoulda been drawn and quartered, if I had anything to say about it! ;D |
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Post by skyhint on Oct 8, 2007 2:43:04 GMT -5
I thought it was grossly unfair when I first saw it. Then I gathered more info and in one video I saw him holding the sign containing a spoiler of Harry Potter like that day after the book came out. And the overreaction when police tried to take him away from hogging up the mic and disrupting the forum. Sure the tasering may've been an overkill but what are you gonna do with a whinning 20 something old baby like him? lol. I think he's a jackass that planned to disrupt things that day. Yes, but now he actually has something to whine about and a HUGE audience who will listen. He should have been told to leave and threatened as to what would happen if he didn't. But maybe they did warn him before. |
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Post by annaa on Oct 8, 2007 17:07:32 GMT -5
No need to *arrest* him, maybe. But once they decided to make the arrest and he kept running, what else should they have done? Does anyone have an alternative? Putting aside the fairness or unfairness of the arrest itself, what should the police do when a person doesn't cooperate? Actually I hadn't considered that. They did arrest him before tasing him, so I suppose that's changed my feelings slightly. But still, I think it's pretty shocking all the same. I don't see that they attempted to calm him down, or even explain why he was being arrested. |
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Post by Sweet Pea on Oct 8, 2007 17:19:16 GMT -5
i still think we should think twice before we start tasing someone for simply asking questions, excitable voice or no...especially in a public forum specifically for asking questions...and particularly since the person asked actually expressed the desire to answer the questions. in other words, i really don't get why he was asked to leave or arrested in the first place, much less tased.  his behavior before or after the event seems to me irrelevant. |
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Post by lennythegiant on Oct 9, 2007 0:47:00 GMT -5
He wasn't tased for asking questions. He was being escorted out because he was causing a disturbance, then when he resisted arrest and fought police he was tased.
I'm wondering if he even believed the conspiracy theory crap he was spewing out.
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Post by Astroruss on Oct 9, 2007 0:47:38 GMT -5
i still think we should think twice before we start tasing someone for simply asking questions, excitable voice or no...especially in a public forum specifically for asking questions...and particularly since the person asked actually expressed the desire to answer the questions. in other words, i really don't get why he was asked to leave or arrested in the first place, much less tased. his behavior before or after the event seems to me irrelevant. Disturbing the peace is a crime too, Pea. Especially in a public place. I'm sure there is a lot more context to this situation that the media are not telling us. Perhaps the guy had been arrested before stirring up trouble, or at least reprimanded. Perhaps the police had recieved complaints about him before. I'm only guessing, of course, but these kinds of internet articles never give the whole story.  |
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Post by Astroruss on Oct 9, 2007 0:49:48 GMT -5
He wasn't tased for asking questions. He was being escorted out because he was causing a disturbance, then when he resisted arrest and fought police he was tased. I'm wondering if he even believed the conspiracy theory crap he was spewing out. Right.  Also, i just wacthed the video again, and it seems that when the woman police officer asked him to sit down, he gently pushed her away. Not much; he was shrugging her off, more likely, getting back to his point. But that's technically assault on a police officer, so that was enough grounds to arrest him right there. Not to mention the fact that forum was held to talk to Senator Kerry, so i'm sure the security was stepped up and they were being extra careful. I don't much like Kerry, but he is a US Senator and as such one of the highest ranking officials in the country. That student could have been percieved as a security threat to the senator's safety, not to mention maybe some of the other officials there for the forum. |
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Oct 9, 2007 6:05:09 GMT -5
I watched the full version.
He kept running around and trying to get away from them which is resisting arrest. They did warn him several times.
I think that he should have been allowed to ask his questions but he didn't wait for a response and just kept on.
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