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Post by strawberrysweetie on May 1, 2008 19:31:41 GMT -5
"even more screwed up version of yourself" Well, that was nice. Ouch...you're right...that sounds really rude. I didn't mean to say it in a mean way. It's just my own theory that everyone in this world is "screwed up" in their own way. No one is perfect. Anyway, sorry...that wasn't supposed to be meant as an attack against you or anything. In all honesty, it wasn't. Anyway, it seems I'm not explaining myself adequetly enough. I appreciate the attempts, but I think I'll forget about explaining my side of things, as that doesn't usually work out well, hasn't really so far. No offense to anyone here, it's merely my communicative problems. When the title of your thread is "considering drug use (yeah, I know)" and you talk about getting into "hardcore" drugs....you must expect a certain type of reaction out of people. I don't get what you're wanting. Someone to tell you to "Go for it; that's a great idea" I thought since you posted it, you'd assume people would try and talk you out of it. You don't seem exactly receptive of everything I've mentioned....so, if you want to ignore the other perception of drug use and the horrors of it, then whatever. I was only trying to help you out of your supposed delusion that drugs are the best solution for you. And if you think we aren't understanding well or that you haven't communicated properly...then, by all means, explain yourself further. There's no easier way (imo) to practice expressing yourself than on here.
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Post by gaia on May 1, 2008 19:40:55 GMT -5
...I don't get what you're wanting. Someone to tell you to "Go for it; that's a great idea" I thought since you posted it, you'd assume people would try and talk you out of it... I hoped that he wanted people to talk him out of it... I really did.
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Post by HybridMoment on May 1, 2008 20:10:40 GMT -5
I don't think using drugs would help with your shyness. If you're talking about heroin it would just make you really happy being isolated. You might even lose any motivation you had to be social at all.
However if you have taken the legal, health, and other risks into account I think using opiates or heroin for recreational use would be fine. If you do some more research about "heroin chippers" you can find out there are individuals that use opiates in moderation with out many problems.
You'd have to find a good dealer and make sure you're drugs aren't cut with another harmful substance. Then choose a method- either snorting or smoking, and never learn how to inject the drug. In your first use you should definitely not be alone and probably only smoke a little. Upon your first use you'll probably throw up a lot, this might make you never want to use again... or start your acquired love for chasing the dragon. In that case you should start yourself on a schedule of only using every other weekend. Occasionally maybe even not using for an entire month before taking it up again. Consult the book "The Heroin User's Handbook" for more information.
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Post by gaia on May 1, 2008 20:15:22 GMT -5
...However if you have taken the legal, health, and other risks into account I think using opiates or heroin for recreational use would be fine... Please tell me this is sarcastic..?
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Post by HybridMoment on May 1, 2008 20:20:07 GMT -5
I was actually not being sarcastic for once in my life.
If this guy has made the decision to use drugs he ought to do it safely.
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Post by gaia on May 1, 2008 20:20:49 GMT -5
I was actually not being sarcastic for once in my life. If this guy has made the decision to use drugs he ought to do it safely. You're right. If he's made his mind up, there's fuck all we can do really. Ah, doesn't life suck? Perhaps I should take some smack too.
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Post by HybridMoment on May 1, 2008 20:56:25 GMT -5
The only reason I know information about heroin was because at one time I had the same kind of curiosities as coruptedheart.
I was skeptical about how it was rumored (propaganda from public school anti-drug programs) that a person could instantly become addicted to drugs after one use. For about six months I became interested in reading medical studies on heroin addiction and personal experiences at Erowid, I even read a whole encyclopedia on opium from the library; eventually I exhausted myself on the topic. I originally only did the research to dispell the instant addiction myth, but now I'm thoroughly convinced most people can recreationally use opiates under the right circumstances with out becoming dependant on them.
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Post by MrNice on May 1, 2008 21:07:46 GMT -5
I don't think he is talking about heroin, even though the words hard core certainly point that way
hallucinogens are really fun - but I would definitely not recommend it as any kind of a solution to anything
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Post by gaia on May 1, 2008 21:20:39 GMT -5
I don't think either of your replies are sensible (Hybrid & MrNice). But what would I know...? Fuck it - let's just ruin this guy... I'm a silly bitch if I think he'll listen to a word I say. MrNice was right all along people - my advice is simply just screwing you all up! *No sarcasm intended. I'm truly defeated.
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Post by corruptedheart on May 1, 2008 22:32:49 GMT -5
I don't think either of your replies are sensible (Hybrid & MrNice). But what would I know...? Fuck it - let's just ruin this guy... I'm a silly bitch if I think he'll listen to a word I say. MrNice was right all along people - my advice is simply just screwing you all up! *No sarcasm intended. I'm truly defeated. Sent you a PM.
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Post by Sigh on May 2, 2008 6:55:42 GMT -5
Keep it nice people, otherwise I'm gonna be forced to lock this thread for arguing.
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Post by gaia on May 2, 2008 7:53:58 GMT -5
Keep it nice people, otherwise I'm gonna be forced to lock this thread for arguing. There isn't any arugeing. I was just being cocky because I was f*cked off yesterday. Sorry people.
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Post by Sigh on May 2, 2008 8:55:27 GMT -5
Keep it nice people, otherwise I'm gonna be forced to lock this thread for arguing. There isn't any arugeing. Potential arguing then
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Post by skyhint on May 2, 2008 10:38:02 GMT -5
However if you have taken the legal, health, and other risks into account I think using opiates or heroin for recreational use would be fine. That is one really big if I mean couldn't you say that about. . . absolutely everything. If you ignore all the negatives... It's reallly great!
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Post by strawberrysweetie on May 2, 2008 13:56:53 GMT -5
I originally only did the research to dispell the instant addiction myth, but now I'm thoroughly convinced most people can recreationally use opiates under the right circumstances with out becoming dependant on them. I really really really really really disagree with you. " If you only use once every four days and don't develop a physical addiction, you may still develop a psychological addiction that causes mental distress if you don't get the drug at the time you are used to.
Psychological addiction is a person's need to use the drug for the effects it produces, rather than to relieve physical withdrawal symptoms. It is not limited only to drugs, even things like gambling, sex, and eating can be psychologically addicting. People with addictive personalities should stay away from any type of drug, especially opioids, cocaine, and speed. " Seriously dude....if you are seriously considering getting into drugs....through all your research, I suggest you also research addiction and addictive personalities extensively. If you are interested in drugs because you are looking for an "escape" from reality, I do believe you have a high risk for developing an addiction. Perhaps there are ways around a physical one (I don't really know...).....but psychological addictions are just as bad, if not in some ways worse, and I think they are even easier to obtain. If one considers all the drug addicts, alcoholics, sex addicts, food addicts, etc. in this world, then I think it's safe to say that more people than not are prone to addictions. I cannot stress this addiction thing enough.....It is horrible, and you won't like it. If you do get into drugs, at some point you're bound to wonder...."What in the hell was I thinking?"
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