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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on May 9, 2014 17:23:08 GMT -5
I think 'N-Gate' (sorry) was wrong of him, but he mumbled it because he knew it was wrong to say it, so I think that's a witch hunt. What makes matters worse was his 'apology'. He said, 'I never wanted anyone to see that', which sounded, to some, like an admission of guilt. He's never gone that far before.
I think 'Thai-Gate' (I'll stop now) was just stupid. How many people in the western world have any clue that the word 'slope' is offensive? I mean, Clarkson may have known, but considering it was broadcast, I don't think the producers knew and that sounds like even more of a witch hunt.
I just think, as you say, something else is happening. I agree, if he was in any other job, he'd have been sacked, but all this bad publicity makes him, and the show, perversely, more popular. It's a juggernaut.
Clarkson, Hammond and May were asked recently if they ever talk about the end of the show, and they said they have discussed it and all agree that when one decides to go, they'll all go. A show of solidarity. The Beeb will know that. The show will have to end without any one of them.
In a recent interview, the head producer guy whose ran the whole thing since the start, was asked, 'How much longer can it keep going?' And he said, 'Well, it's definitely nearer to the end of its life - we can't keep going forever'.
That didn't sound great to me.
That said, it's still absolutely brilliant and I think they'll only go when they know it's time. But until then, I hope they'll keep the awesomeness coming.
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Post by ura on May 10, 2014 5:48:03 GMT -5
So because he admitted to guilt and sincerely apologised he's getting in more trouble than before, that's odd. I'm not sure about the Thai-gate thing. I watched the Burma/Thailand Episode recently and I didn't know that what he said was an offensive term, I missed the comment as well since I didn't know. I watched the recent episodes independent of the hot water that Clarkson got himself into, I watched it because I enjoy top gear and don't care too much for what Clarkson says.
That's really nice to hear that if one quits, they'll all quit, I like the idea that the three of them are really good friends or at least get along well and it's not all put on for camera, I mean watching James May and Jeremy Clarkson on the Graham Norton show (I know) made it look like they really do like each other.
It doesn't make sense that the BBC would want to cancel one of their most succesful shows, but I guess everything has to go at some point, I'll definitely tune in for the final episode of Top Gear, it's probably going to be brilliant.
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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on May 10, 2014 7:31:04 GMT -5
You know, it doesn't surprise me you like Norton. You all probably have a framed photo of him on your walls...
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Post by ura on May 10, 2014 8:58:57 GMT -5
I only saw the interview because it was a related video on youtube, not that I watch the show. He's not really followed over here, not anymore than wossy, just because he's Irish isn't enough of a reason to watch him.
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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on May 11, 2014 6:31:22 GMT -5
He was brilliant o Eurovision last night. Nearly wet myself laughing. He really has a brilliant dry sense of humour.
The hosts picked on him, too, for mocking them, and they let off one of those confetti cannons in his booth.
"Oh, it's like the gay wedding I'll never have", he said. Ah, priceless. The Irish has a wonderful sense of humour.
It's worth watching Eurovision just for his commentary. Oh, and thanks for giving us eight points.
You do know 12 is the maximum? Just thought you might need a reminder...
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Post by ura on May 11, 2014 6:35:01 GMT -5
I prefer Terry Wogan's commentary but I haven't watched the eurovision in years. Ha, that's a good joke, I can even imagine him saying it in his voice and it seems great.
You know how many points the UK gave Ireland, 0, so let that be a lesson to you, thanks neighbour for giving us all of 0 points, don't worry we won't spend it all in one place.
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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on May 11, 2014 6:59:02 GMT -5
IRELAND WEREN'T EVEN IN THE BLOODY EUROVISION!
Bono is all you have, and he is not talented...
I do prefer Sir Terry, but Graham is a brilliant second choice.
Don't worry, though, I'm sure Ireland will make it next year.
Better give Bono a ring, though.
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Post by ura on May 11, 2014 16:26:33 GMT -5
We made it to the semi-finals, but we didn't qualify, with brilliant assistance from the U.K.
I don't really care about the Eurovision, I only watched the winning contestant on youtube after he won because I don't really care that much. I like the winners song, he has a really good voice.
I liked it more when it was Dustin the turkey who we sent.
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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on May 11, 2014 19:43:31 GMT -5
To be fair, Ireland's entry was a bit crap.
I just found out the UK and Ireland voted for the Polish 'Carry On up the Eurovision', as Norton put it, but the juries changed the results. That means the UK and Ireland as proud transgender supporting nations actually voted for the slutty milkmaids. Just brilliant, isn't it?
I think the winner deserved it. She was brilliant. Great voice.
Whatever happened to Dustin, BTW?
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Post by ura on May 11, 2014 21:05:10 GMT -5
Quite honestly while the singer had a fantastic voice and I haven't heard any other contestants, I don't like the eurovision becomes a matter or politics, that I see the Austrian singer succeeding for being a Transgender person rather than being a decent singer (which granted they were) but I don't like politics coming into it. That being said however the Eurovision is really not a talent show because most of the singers are pretty bad and it always has been about politics, Ireland and the UK generally support each other because in real life we're allies. (It was nice to see our president making a state visit over to the UK recently.) Who were the two slutty milkmaids were they the Russians?
Dustin just kind of disappeared, he was on a kids show for years that I used to watch with another puppet but they replaced the puppets with presenters who seem to have no onscreen charisma.
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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on May 12, 2014 6:53:37 GMT -5
They were Polish. Type in 'Eurovison Polish Entry' on Google Images, you'll get the idea. I think they were milkmaids, I have no idea.
The Russians were twin girls and were quite good, but they got booed every time they got any points and the two poor girls looked like they were putting a brave face on it, but actually, I think it was affecting them. They were sitting right in front of the baying mob, too. I felt sorry for them, they were only 17. Really talented. It's not their fault their leader is a nutcase.
I think Ukaine was cheered a few times, too.
It is too political, but I just watch it for Norton's commentary. I'm not his biggest fan, but he does make me laugh. It's sad because Eurovision was created to unite Europe and it's lost that.
It says a lot when puppets have more character than people, to be frank.
Irish television sound amazing, by the way...
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Post by ura on May 12, 2014 7:20:31 GMT -5
I just saw them, the Polish girls, even if the song was just milkmaids with their breasts out, how is that any different from almost every other act which amounts to the same thing, massive sexualisation, I mean they actually received the most votes in most european countries, a fact that was ignored and the political vote was chosen over it. Honestly I don't consider it a proper song contest so some attractive Polish women jumping around and saying how hot they were on stage is about as good as anything else. It really sucks for those two girls that they are the victim of an ongoing dispute between two sides and they're from the wrong side. Yeah, it's too political and the songs aren't particularly great to begin with, glad I don't really watch the whole thing. Romania's entry last year was brilliant, something so over the top and camp about it, it really spells eurotrash, I mean eurovision. Well, Dustin made tons of jokes that parents would get but kids would never understand, which was great.
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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on May 12, 2014 12:47:31 GMT -5
When you say, 'I just saw them', you did mean online? Not, not outside your window, right? Or at Tesco?
I'm sorry, but what they were doing was a bit OTT. Did you see the churning bit? Who the heck churns like that, unless you're trying to attract someone, but I'd give up if you'd gone that far to woo.
The imagery wasn't that imaginary, put it that way.
It isn't a proper contest, no, but it is bloody hilarious.
Except for those poor girls, but I do applaud them for being so brave.
I think my favourite Eurovision song was the death metal Finnish one from a few years back that won it. It was kinda like when Rage got Christmas number one. Brilliantly unorthodox rebellion.
Maybe Ireland should go back to Jedward. They got you eighth last time. Or team up with Dusty. The puppet, not Springfield...
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Post by ura on May 12, 2014 14:47:13 GMT -5
Nope, everyone around here after they win the eurovision go to Tesco in Ireland to celebrate, the biggest tesco in Ireland is about 15 miles from where I live, really, it's the most important thing to see after going to Denmark.
Yeah, it was OTT but honestly it's the eurovision, it's supposed to be OTT.
I loved Lordi's song that they entered a few years ago, it was fantastic, can't think of a better song for that.
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Post by Slinky on May 18, 2014 11:57:42 GMT -5
I'm currently watching last week's episode of Agents of Shield. I've watched most of the first season in the last week or so.
Also caught up on Game of Thrones, favourite show by a mile currently. Well, alongside The Walking Dead.
I also worked my way through True Detective season 1, very highly recommended.
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