Advice for the younger here.

[Deleted]

This is your 30 something self talking to you from the future. What ever you do,,Get a good education and excel in getting your degree. So you can get into a great career that you will enjoy doing while making good $ Remember only the rich say "Money isn't everything" (its not really but it does help)

You do not want some crap job later in life making peanuts and working with jackasses who think they are still the bully in H.S. and BTW they are older than you too.

Hope this message gets thru, isn't the internet weird?

[k151]

Thanks, that's exactly what I want to do. What I REALLY want to do is get a Ph. D. in Psychology. It will be some hard work, but I am certainly able.
Of course money isn't everything, but it is something. I've grown up never having to worry about it and I don't want to live my adult life worrying about it. Psychology, whatever job I do (clinical, research, etc) will bring me enough money and I will love doing it.
I have been thinking about advice like yours for the last year or two, it's something I dread happening, being in a horrible job with horrible people, I wouldn't be able to last in a place like that.

[isis]

Good advice Fir.

I am just starting a 4 year grad program to get a PharmD to be a pharmacist. And while I look forward to the challenge, I wish I could fast forward the upcoming 4 years. Mainly because there are going to be SO many oral presentations to do each semester. In fact, I just had orientation at the school and one of the speakers said 'If anyone in here is shy, they won't be any more after their first semester' referring to all of the speeches we students will have to give in front of the ~70 students plus faculty. Then at orientation we had to go up and introduce ourselves so it is staring already. Not sure if I could ever get used to that but will have to somehow. One trick that I have is that I tend to consciously "blur" or unfocus my vision while I am in front of everyone so that I don't have to see individual faces. Any else tried that?

[annaa]

What you typed is pretty much what I intend to do.
I'm going to get as much education as I can, then think about a job.
I don't think I could end up working with 'jackasses' anyway. It would drive me crazy.

[streetworm]

I've always been under the impression that working with jackasses is unavoidable. The only difference is that it would be jackasses with a lot of money.

[Deleted]

Well yeah every job has its idiots,, but some are worse than others, and usually the low paying ones are full of them. If ya gotta work with A-holes might as well get paid good,,,lol.

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isis said:

Good advice Fir.

I am just starting a 4 year grad program to get a PharmD to be a pharmacist. And while I look forward to the challenge, I wish I could fast forward the upcoming 4 years. Mainly because there are going to be SO many oral presentations to do each semester. In fact, I just had orientation at the school and one of the speakers said 'If anyone in here is shy, they won't be any more after their first semester' referring to all of the speeches we students will have to give in front of the ~70 students plus faculty. Then at orientation we had to go up and introduce ourselves so it is staring already. Not sure if I could ever get used to that but will have to somehow. One trick that I have is that I tend to consciously "blur" or unfocus my vision while I am in front of everyone so that I don't have to see individual faces. Any else tried that?

Hmmm sounds familiar.

Hey Isis, did you get my PM?

[gSteve]

I got a good education but not quite a degree, (i could of done 1 year more to get one) despite that I couldn't get a job and ended up in a supermarket. I think its good to get a good eduction but it doesn't guarantee a good career especially if shyness gets in the way of getting a job, I sometimes wonder if i would of been better off if I had got a job at 16.

[HybridMoment]

I agree with gSteve, getting a degree will not always get you a great career or a large salary.

Of course you should work towards a career so that your life will not be miserable, but I see many people putting too much money towards degrees where they will have a difficult time finding a job. That is especially the case if you don't have good references and work history.

[Sometimes you can even screw yourself over by having too much education or being too intelligent. This happened to my father, who has a masters degree in math. He went to a job interview and they told him they did not want to hire him because he didn't know about a certain kind of semi conductor. So he left and over the weekend he studied semi conductors. He came back and told the employer what he now knew about semi conductors. Then they told him the real reason he was not hired was because he was too well educated and they thought he would leave the job. He was eventually hired by the government as the result of the failure of affirmative action. The boss actually said to him that he "needed to hire a white guy because the rest of the blacks they hired were too lazy and stupid to do the job."] <--- And there's my long almost pointless story for the day LOL.

Also not everyone is smart/dedicated enough to obtain a degree, that shouldn't mean that they end up working horrible jobs. But I guess it might?

[nameless]

i did 2 years at college and although i applied for uni and could have gone, my grades werent the best and it meant doing foundation years etc. i was pretty much fed up of full time education, im looking into part time courses and intensive courses at the moment so i can still study and work at the same time!

with regards to getting a job, in the uk, loads of people pass their A levels with brilliant marks that employers are now not just hiring people on qualifications because they dont mean that much! they would rather have people with the day to day skills and working knowledge!

i guess its 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other but in the long run i regret not going and getting more qualifications!

[orange]

Fir Na Tine: Excluding the part about jackasses, that's exactly what my mother has always told me.

And I intend on following through with it too. I'm slowly on my way to becoming a doctor, so then I am the one who gets to boss everyone around! lol

[Deleted]

Looks like we have some youth here with good heads on there shoulders.

Not that I am expert,,but just going by my own experiances. If I had to do it all over again I would have made lots of different choices. While it is true that a degree doesn't gurantee a well paying job it up your chances by a lot. The more you know, the more you know the better.

Other than degree requird kinda jobs,, the only other jobs that make decent money and are long lasting jobs are, Police or other public service/government style jobs,, Trade Union jobs,

[ellis]

I sometimes think I'd like to be in the police.

[I am Jack's wasted life]

Anyone know what happened to Isis? I wanted to PM her as she is attending pharm school at the same Uni as me (but different campus).

[Samantha]

Apart from the insinuation that rich/educated people are better than poor/uneducated people I agree. To some extent. My biggest regret is not being able to finish my education.

However not everyone is an academic. Which maybe off topic but it is something that concerns me about the education system. It is governed by academics so therefore they think academia is the best thing for everyone which is to me a crock of poop. For many people, they would be better off learning a trade, vocational work etc. That's the thing about diversity, people tend to ENJOY and be GOOD at DIFFERENT things. So a degree is great but it isn't for everyone.