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Post by rukryM on Dec 6, 2008 7:46:29 GMT -5
Well, yeah, I also listen to a lot of music which contains depressive and ruining lyrics {mostly black and death metal}, however I don't care at all about the lyrics since it's the MUSIC I'm interested in. I totally agree that Coldplay is boring as well, but more depressing than boring . I actually have to say I find classic music "boring" too, since I experience it as very monotonous. However, there are works out there which are just brilliant, for example "Also Sprach Zarathustra" by Bach {or Wagner ? I don't exactly remember}.
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Post by Stranger on Dec 6, 2008 9:22:40 GMT -5
...however I don't care at all about the lyrics since it's the MUSIC I'm interested in. It might depend on the genre, but lyrics are often a big part of the music to me. Or at least I think they often distinguish an okay song from a great one. Every time a good, catchy tune out there is ruined by bland, generic lyrics, God masturbates a kitten. Or something.
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Post by rukryM on Dec 6, 2008 15:27:34 GMT -5
You shouldn't let the tunes get ruined by some profound retarded lyrics, there's too many good songs to ditch because of that. At least when you listen to black and death metal you don't understand what they're singing, or screaming .
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Post by strawberrysweetie on Dec 6, 2008 15:50:54 GMT -5
You shouldn't let the tunes get ruined by some profound retarded lyrics, there's too many good songs to ditch because of that. At least when you listen to black and death metal you don't understand what they're singing, or screaming . haha...we most definitely have opposite music tastes. *anyway...I like both music and lyrics. I think I have to like both to consider a song amazing. When one is missing, well...something's missing. Bad music or bad lyrics usually ruins a song for me.
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Post by rukryM on Dec 6, 2008 16:37:09 GMT -5
Such as Frank Zappa's Dental floss farm ?
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Post by 10010101001111 on Dec 7, 2008 0:10:21 GMT -5
I hate all the music that is on local radio stations. There is pop music, new country (aka pop music), rap, christian rock, 80's hits, tejano, soft rock, and a station claiming to be rock but actually playing rap music. When the radio in my truck stopped working the truck actually increased in value. Right there with ya kool-aid! ROFL tejano music! do you lhappen to live in taxas? Your truck increased its value!!! THere's no way of explaining how hard I'm laughing. Anyway, I pretty much hate ALL the popular music(radio music). Specially from Mexico. It sucks, straight-out!!! Hey audiophyl, this video is just for you! www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfgqyI3_XY
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Post by 10010101001111 on Dec 7, 2008 0:17:27 GMT -5
i can't stand the stones either. I don't even know you anymore... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D you guys are cool. even tough sweet pea hates classic rock and metal
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Post by k151 on Dec 15, 2008 2:30:20 GMT -5
and umm....I just recently became a Coldplay fan. Seriously. I'm loving their music so much lately. Don't you find their music depressive and overall mentally destroying? Depressing music is sometimes nice. It's hard for me to even figure out the type of music I like, it's such a big range. The most important part of music varies for me. Sometimes it's the music itself, sometimes it's the musical nature of the singer's voice (ie voice-as-an-instrument) and sometimes it's the content of the lyrics. Clearly, the most epic songs are those which combine excellence from all 3 of those areas. The songs that give me the biggest chills or the deepest thoughts have slow, soft bridges and then a really powerful chorus. That's generally how songs go, but with some songs, the changeover is fantastic. Still, there are many good songs with poorly written lyrics, or good lyrics set to poor music. Admittedly, it's difficult for a song to be any good at all if the singer blows.
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Post by k151 on Dec 15, 2008 2:35:21 GMT -5
Well, yeah, I also listen to a lot of music which contains depressive and ruining lyrics {mostly black and death metal}, however I don't care at all about the lyrics since it's the MUSIC I'm interested in. I totally agree that Coldplay is boring as well, but more depressing than boring . I actually have to say I find classic music "boring" too, since I experience it as very monotonous. However, there are works out there which are just brilliant, for example "Also Sprach Zarathustra" by Bach {or Wagner ? I don't exactly remember}. Pachelbel's canon in D is freaking amazing.
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Post by Paulinus on Dec 15, 2008 6:24:51 GMT -5
Trying to analyse lyrics in songs just makes me feel dumb as I almost never know what their on about. Well with the exception of the type of music I wouldn't choose to listen to, I can understand the meaning of kissing a girl and liking it So mostly a voice is just another instrument to my ears and it doesn't matter so much what its saying.
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Post by rukryM on Dec 15, 2008 12:06:27 GMT -5
Pachelbel's canon in D is freaking amazing. And there's electronic and metal music that's even more amazing . I'm fairly convinced there are classical works that would satisfy even me, I lack the will and energy to search for it at the moment, though ^^. Depressing music is sometimes nice. It's hard for me to even figure out the type of music I like, it's such a big range. The most important part of music varies for me. Sometimes it's the music itself, sometimes it's the musical nature of the singer's voice (ie voice-as-an-instrument) and sometimes it's the content of the lyrics. Clearly, the most epic songs are those which combine excellence from all 3 of those areas. The songs that give me the biggest chills or the deepest thoughts have slow, soft bridges and then a really powerful chorus. That's generally how songs go, but with some songs, the changeover is fantastic. Still, there are many good songs with poorly written lyrics, or good lyrics set to poor music. Admittedly, it's difficult for a song to be any good at all if the singer blows. I just cannot see how depressing music can be nice. As with sad movies, depressing and melancholic music just focuses on the bad things and it makes me think bad thoughts, it's like I have to sustain a mental attack of undesired situations. It just makes me even more depressed than I already am nowadays. And I don't see the point in listening to and take part in reminders of bad things, be it movies, music and so on when there's already enough pain, suffering and violence in the world. It's just as cutting yourself with a knife and then spice the wound up with enormous amounts of salt^^. But, of course, people have a different taste in music and I understand that there are the ones who view this type of music differently than me, I just cannot understand WHY some would listen to this utter nonsense . And once again, the lyrics don't matter at all, since it's the music I'm focusing on.
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Post by k151 on Dec 16, 2008 0:11:05 GMT -5
Depressing music/movies don't always make me depressed per se. They just make me think. Think about my life, life in general, humanity etc etc. Sometimes depressing music/movies put me in a better mood. I relate to the situation, realize I'm not alone, realize I can change or whatever.
The world is a far, far nicer place than the news portrays it. The news focuses on the 0.1% of evil people, evil situations or bad luck.
I'm not saying there isn't suffering, or that we should turn our backs on it. I'm just saying that dwelling on the terrible stuff constantly won't bring about any change.
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Post by strawberrysweetie on Dec 16, 2008 3:54:01 GMT -5
Hey, I tried to explain why I like depressing music....the way it "speaks to me and for me at the same time" bit. Or in other words, like k151 said, it's being able to relate to it. Kind of like this forum in a way. Some of the things on here are depressing (probably largely thanks to me )...but it's also a sense of being able to relate to others. Sadness exists, unfortunately. Some people probably unhealthily indulge in it (as weird as that may sound...) and others choose to try to avoid the emotion as much as possible. Of course these are the extreme ends. But it exists, nonetheless. And people cope with it differently. But, of course, people have a different taste in music and I understand that there are the ones who view this type of music differently than me, I just cannot understand WHY some would listen to this utter nonsense . I'm starting to think music is sort of like comedy in a way. There are some comedians that I find completely awful and couldn't stand to listen to. For example, someone a couple of years ago showed me a clip of Dane Cook making car noises or something. I thought it was the dumbest thing (no offense to anyone who likes him, or anything). Although, I do consider myself kind of picky when it comes to comedy. Anyway, what I'm getting at...is that humor differs greatly, also. But really...one's sense of humor can't seemed to be explained. You either find something funny or you don't. I guess music is much the same way. I can try my hardest to explain how fantastic a song is because of it's genius lyrics and melody and how it just reaches to the core of my soul...and yet the other person won't be able to 'get' it, because they don't feel the same way. So when it comes to subjectivism, it can't really be thoroughly explained or understood. Trying to analyse lyrics in songs just makes me feel dumb as I almost never know what their on about. Well with the exception of the type of music I wouldn't choose to listen to, I can understand the meaning of kissing a girl and liking it So mostly a voice is just another instrument to my ears and it doesn't matter so much what its saying. I find this interesting. And actually this reminds me that lyrics aren't the first thing I notice. I definitely notice the melody/instrumentation/sound first. Then when I hear the song several times, I start to notice the lyrics more. This whole music vs. lyrics issue reminds me of a quote from the movie Music and Lyrics: Alex Fletcher: It doesn't have to be perfect. Just spit it out. They're just lyrics. Sophie Fisher: "Just lyrics"? Alex Fletcher: Lyrics are important. They're just not as important as melody. Sophie Fisher: I really don't think you get it. Alex Fletcher: Oh. You look angry. Click your pen. Sophie Fisher: A melody is like seeing someone for the first time. The physical attraction. Sex. Alex Fletcher: I so get that. Sophie Fisher: But then, as you get to know the person, that's the lyrics. Their story. Who they are underneath. It's the combination of the two that makes it magical. And I completely agree with what she's saying. Of course, there are always songs with lyrics that don't make sense or aren't deep and don't add any meaning really. But lyrics can be extremely important. IMO, anyway.
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Post by Paulinus on Dec 16, 2008 7:10:16 GMT -5
Trying to analyse lyrics in songs just makes me feel dumb as I almost never know what their on about. Well with the exception of the type of music I wouldn't choose to listen to, I can understand the meaning of kissing a girl and liking it So mostly a voice is just another instrument to my ears and it doesn't matter so much what its saying. I find this interesting. And actually this reminds me that lyrics aren't the first thing I notice. I definitely notice the melody/instrumentation/sound first. Then when I hear the song several times, I start to notice the lyrics more. This whole music vs. lyrics issue reminds me of a quote from the movie Music and Lyrics: Alex Fletcher: It doesn't have to be perfect. Just spit it out. They're just lyrics. Sophie Fisher: "Just lyrics"? Alex Fletcher: Lyrics are important. They're just not as important as melody. Sophie Fisher: I really don't think you get it. Alex Fletcher: Oh. You look angry. Click your pen. Sophie Fisher: A melody is like seeing someone for the first time. The physical attraction. Sex. Alex Fletcher: I so get that. Sophie Fisher: But then, as you get to know the person, that's the lyrics. Their story. Who they are underneath. It's the combination of the two that makes it magical. And I completely agree with what she's saying. Of course, there are always songs with lyrics that don't make sense or aren't deep and don't add any meaning really. But lyrics can be extremely important. IMO, anyway. I'd actually like to understand lyrics more. I spend time on a music site and people are saying how much they love the lyrics to song x and I look at them and its all gibberish to me. Has to be frying pan in the face obvious for me to know what their saying, and something that obvious is usually bad And even if it does look obvious I wonder if its actually being ironic(and not in the 10000 spoons when all you need is a knife way ). I have identified with songs that appear to deal with shyness/anxiety but I cant say I've encountered many. Its probably comedic lyrics I notice more then any other. Stick me with a weird song like for example one written like a memo from a zombie and I'll pay attention I guess poetry was never my strong point. *shrug*
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Post by rukryM on Dec 16, 2008 12:39:34 GMT -5
I actually tend to like ambient and instrumental music better than music with lyrics and vocals.
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