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Post by Sweet Pea on Nov 13, 2008 14:53:49 GMT -5
Since it's been like this for more than 10 years now, it's likely that it won't change in the near future, so I'd rather go search for someone to help me out. At least see what my options are, and then make a decision. I just need someone to put a foot in my ass so I'd actually do it, instead of sitting here and rambling down what I wish to do  . consider it done. 
now go get the yellowpages and the phone and make an appointment! ;D |
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Post by YouNeedLove on Nov 13, 2008 14:54:15 GMT -5
Most likely that is because the ones who suffer from APD {and anything else similiar in general} either thinks it's normal to "face obstacles" or they're just too proud to admit to themselves that they need help. Or they dont think there is anything anyone can do for helping them. It might not be worth the painful experience of opening up and being judged by a complete stranger. I went in therapy for depression/sa but got worse from it. |
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Post by Sweet Pea on Nov 13, 2008 14:59:12 GMT -5
Most likely that is because the ones who suffer from APD {and anything else similiar in general} either thinks it's normal to "face obstacles" or they're just too proud to admit to themselves that they need help. Or they dont think there is anything anyone can do for helping them. It might not be worth the painful experience of opening up and being judged by a complete stranger. I went in therapy for depression/sa but got worse from it. let me guess, you tried one therapist for a few weeks/months and gave up when it didn't magically solve all your problems? that's a common scenario, which is why that's my guess. therapy is hard work. you have to work in partnership with your therapist to make progress. you can't give up, you have to keep working at it, even if it means switching therapists. yeah, i know it's difficult. but that's what it takes. no one is going to fight for your life if you won't. pretty simple. |
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Post by rukryM on Nov 13, 2008 15:13:25 GMT -5
Most likely that is because the ones who suffer from APD {and anything else similiar in general} either thinks it's normal to "face obstacles" or they're just too proud to admit to themselves that they need help. Or they dont think there is anything anyone can do for helping them. It might not be worth the painful experience of opening up and being judged by a complete stranger. I went in therapy for depression/sa but got worse from it. I recognise that feeling, especially since everyone I've talked to about this say "Get more social, don't be so shy, put a smile on your face". It worries me a lot that a therapist might say the same thing. On the other hand, I haven't seen one yet^^. |
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Post by rukryM on Nov 13, 2008 15:16:04 GMT -5
Since it's been like this for more than 10 years now, it's likely that it won't change in the near future, so I'd rather go search for someone to help me out. At least see what my options are, and then make a decision. I just need someone to put a foot in my ass so I'd actually do it, instead of sitting here and rambling down what I wish to do . consider it done.
now go get the yellowpages and the phone and make an appointment! ;D Thanks a lot, I feel SO much better now . But seriously, I need to do it, I just don't know if I can squeeze a therapist session in between when I'm reading for my exams^^. |
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Post by YouNeedLove on Nov 13, 2008 15:35:07 GMT -5
let me guess, you tried one therapist for a few weeks/months and gave up when it didn't magically solve all your problems? that's a common scenario, which is why that's my guess. therapy is hard work. you have to work in partnership with your therapist to make progress. you can't give up, you have to keep working at it, even if it means switching therapists. yeah, i know it's difficult. but that's what it takes. no one is going to fight for your life if you won't. pretty simple. Yes you are right i guess (but I had no expectations). Im going to see a psychologist next week and im on waiting list for cbt.. Yes no ones going to fight for me but there is a point where its not worth fighting for anymore i always tend to calculate if potential gain-(money+pain)>0. |
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Post by YouNeedLove on Nov 13, 2008 15:57:59 GMT -5
I recognise that feeling, especially since everyone I've talked to about this say "Get more social, don't be so shy, put a smile on your face". It worries me a lot that a therapist might say the same thing. On the other hand, I haven't seen one yet^^. A therapist is supposed to empathize with you s\he is paid for making you feel better about yourself and help you work with your problem so its not likely you will hear that kind of thing. My problem was that even if the therapist understood my problems he had no solutions which confirmed my fear that i am severely f-cked up. |
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Post by rukryM on Nov 13, 2008 17:21:23 GMT -5
I know that, but the reason I'm putting it in such a negative way was that I consulted an online therapist and wrote about my problems. That therapist of course couldn't help me, but she made those suggestions "be more happy, don't put on a rough and serious face". She didn't mention any techniques of self-improving one's behaviour and things like that. Hence my skepticism.
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Post by Sweet Pea on Dec 23, 2008 3:04:34 GMT -5
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Post by Sweet Pea on Dec 23, 2008 3:08:05 GMT -5
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Post by strawberrysweetie on Dec 23, 2008 4:36:29 GMT -5
That last bit pisses me off. |
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Post by Sweet Pea on Dec 23, 2008 5:07:21 GMT -5
That last bit pisses me off. hmmmm...i vondah vhat zat indicates... (j/k ;D) you mean, the part about the beta blocker? why? |
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Post by strawberrysweetie on Dec 23, 2008 5:32:30 GMT -5
Nah, more like..."There are no treatments specifically for the avoidant personality disorder itself..." That sucks.
Mostly that is what pissed me off.
But, also I find it kind of odd she said that if presenting for a job is a requirement and there is no option of 'getting out of it or refusing to do it'..then one should do the beta blocker for anticipatory anxiety....Well, I find this odd, because it's like it's saying it IS better to get out of it or avoid it if possible. I don't know, that just seems weird to me. :S
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Post by rukryM on Dec 23, 2008 5:44:18 GMT -5
I'm a lazy dumbfuck at times {sorry for the coarse language if anyone's offended} so I've not watched the video, but I've heard too that APD cannot be cured, you have to live with it for the rest of your life and try to reduce the impact it has on your mind; try to keep it under control. Easier said than done. Oh well^^.
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Post by Sweet Pea on Dec 23, 2008 12:24:34 GMT -5
Nah, more like..."There are no treatments specifically for the avoidant personality disorder itself..." That sucks. Mostly that is what pissed me off. But, also I find it kind of odd she said that if presenting for a job is a requirement and there is no option of 'getting out of it or refusing to do it'..then one should do the beta blocker for anticipatory anxiety....Well, I find this odd, because it's like it's saying it IS better to get out of it or avoid it if possible. I don't know, that just seems weird to me. :S lol, well, keep in mind this woman is a psychiatrist. that means she's also a medical doctor and has more of a medical orientation than a psychologist. what she meant was there's no pill you can take to treat avoidant personality disorder specifically. in other words, there's no pill that will make you stop avoiding. also, i think she was addressing the fact that sometimes people have emergency situations in which a beta blocker can help, not that you shouldn't do anything otherwise. from what i've read few people with APD seek treatment, so she probably answered the way she did because the only people with this disorder who come to see her are in an emergency situation such as the one she described. it prolly just unfortunately came out sounding like something she was recommending, when in actuality it's just a situation she commonly encounters with avoidants. that's my take on it anyways. |
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