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Post by strawberrysweetie on Nov 28, 2011 23:04:45 GMT -5
Catchy title, right? Anyway, thought about posting this in the 'virgins' thread, but decided against it and thought I'd post it here....see if anyone has any thoughts/comments regarding this.... This may be completely inappropriate to post but.......all the more reason to post it......  I used to think virginity was a pretty big deal. Maybe I still do, in a way. But anyway......I've often wondered the value of it. Anymore, I occasionally find myself thinking silently to myself, 'I wonder what virginity sells for these days...........' a different sort of 'value'  haha of course it would depend on how you look....in which case I might be able to sell myself for a whopping $2.00 But anyway, when I first heard about that story, I was completely disturbed. And disgusted. Now, I'm not so sure it's THAT big of a deal. For personal respect, I'd hope a person wouldn't choose it, but at the same time.......how would losing it to someone who winds up not caring about you (or through some drunken night)...be any better?? At least this way, the person is for sure getting something out of it. I think her (if you read the linked post) biggest mistake with it was the fact that she got so much media attention. She'd have been better off without all that attention. Other people obviously will have lost respect for her and may not take her seriously (she wants to do marriage and family therapy? haha) But really...aside from the fact that it's technically "illegal" in most places....is it really all that bad of a thing? Let's say this is a one time thing, and she never plans on 'selling her body' again. Not saying I'd ever actually do it, but I will say that I don't think it's necessarily the worst thing in the world... If you think my brain is massively f'ed up, I wouldn't argue with you. Just sort of curious what others of you out there think about this. What is the 'value' of virginity? Is what she did completely immoral? Disgusting? Disgraceful? Do you think it's THAT big of a deal? Or okay since it was a personal decision? It's not like anybody was not consenting here. And again, any sort of legal issues aside. The fact that money is involved seems to greatly 'cheapen' it and make her out to look bad.....but let's face it.....college is really damn expensive. lol(mental laugh) |
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Post by geekguy on Nov 28, 2011 23:36:48 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on this.
I don't think there is anything wrong with what she's doing. Hell, I don't see a problem with prostitution at all as long as it goes through proper channels (licensed brothels, health regulations to have the patrons and staff clean of sexual diseases, all that stuff).
She's just taking advantage of the fact that some men have this weird obsession with virginity, and how one of the "great conquests" is supposedly being a girls first time (not to mention the cultural pressure on guys to lose their virginity early, see: most movies aimed at teens).
Honestly, virginity really doesn't matter (unless your religion says it does, but I'm not religious so I'm not going to go there). The guy who is bidding over 5 million dollars for her virginity is the real one with a problem here in my opinion. What a ludicrous waste of money! Hey how about instead of giving her 5 million dollars so you can have sex with her ONCE, you donate that 5 million dollars to a worthy cause (there are many of them that could really benefit from an extra 5 big ones)!
I honestly don't think its a big deal for her what she does with herself in the end. It's her life, and as long as she isn't harming anyone with this auction of hers, I don't care what she does. If people didn't obsess so much about virginity this wouldn't be a huge story to begin with!
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Post by Karen on Nov 29, 2011 10:47:55 GMT -5
My first reaction was "What will this girl feel like in the future when she looks back? Will she regret that her first time wasn't with someone she loved and trusted, or even cared about?"
But then I thought, not everyone is the same, and some people don't have that sort of view point. I see it as rather a mercenary way to view your own life, but I can't say its the worst thing ever.
I agree with Geekguy in that I don't really see anything wrong with prostitution in general as long as its done in a licensed, clean environment, that provides adequate protection for the girls involved. Though, I do sometimes wonder about the emotional and mental repercussions for these girls.
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Post by Tal on Nov 29, 2011 14:41:42 GMT -5
Although I don't think selling your first time is a good idea, if someone is offering thousands or even millions for it, I think you'd be foolish to turn that down. Having reached 27 and still being a virgin I can safely say its not something to cherish and keep forever so getting rid of it early on isn't a bad idea. Sometimes the right people just don't come along.
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Post by Rose on Nov 29, 2011 23:48:35 GMT -5
The girl doesn't seem to have much dignity. But it's her virginity to do with what she wants. My first reaction was "What will this girl feel like in the future when she looks back? Will she regret that her first time wasn't with someone she loved and trusted, or even cared about?" Yeah I was thinking that too... |
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Post by skyhint on Dec 2, 2011 16:22:52 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on this. I don't think there is anything wrong with what she's doing. Hell, I don't see a problem with prostitution at all as long as it goes through proper channels (licensed brothels, health regulations to have the patrons and staff clean of sexual diseases, all that stuff). This is legal in australia isn't it my only objection is the health risks, which can be minimized, but not eliminated. I dont find it immoral. Money is important too, it has a big effect on your life. A person just has to consider what he/she values more. I dont think chosing money over virginity makes you disgusting or immoral or even shallow. Like I said my only ojections are health and I guess safety reelated. |
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Post by strawberrysweetie on Dec 10, 2011 20:33:04 GMT -5
The guy who is bidding over 5 million dollars for her virginity is the real one with a problem here in my opinion. What a ludicrous waste of money! Hey how about instead of giving her 5 million dollars so you can have sex with her ONCE, you donate that 5 million dollars to a worthy cause (there are many of them that could really benefit from an extra 5 big ones)! sooooooo true. hahaha (funny, because he is an idiot). Sad, though, considering it really is such a waste of money. to be quite honest, though.....I'm not even so sure I recognized this fact initially. How sad is that?  I guess I'm not necessarily surprised a guy would pay that much, since prostitution has been around for forever. And some people do make a big huge deal out of virginity. My first reaction was "What will this girl feel like in the future when she looks back? Will she regret that her first time wasn't with someone she loved and trusted, or even cared about?" I initially thought that as well. And I still wonder how it all really turned out for her. But I kind of see it differently now. Not everyone has this huge fantastically great 'first time' or whatever anyway. Some people get raped. Some people wind up with someone who didn't really care about them in the first place. I suppose I sort of wonder with this...if it's almost as though she has a bit more control over the situation, actually. People, with feelings involved, sometimes get too carried away. Maybe in the end, the 'first time'....getting it done and over with and with someone you don't necessarily care that much about, isn't all that bad of a thing. I realize how terrible that might sound :S but really, I do wonder...if maybe she doesn't feel all that bad about it at all. Sometimes the right people just don't come along. Exactly. . . .my only objection is the health risks, which can be minimized, but not eliminated. . . . Like I said my only ojections are health and I guess safety reelated. Yeah, I can definitely see that. But again with this...I almost think this gives her the possibility for more control. Tests can be demanded. Background checks can be done. Of course, not everyone has such a background documented and a certain risk is always there, but........ Some people go to bars and get one-night-stands all the time. Without getting tested or getting to know anyone beforehand. Personally, I think that sounds worse and even more risky. ... Anyway, a part of me is surprised no one's had any sort of huge negative reaction to this. |
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Post by Stranger on Dec 12, 2011 2:29:45 GMT -5
My first reaction was "What will this girl feel like in the future when she looks back? Will she regret that her first time wasn't with someone she loved and trusted, or even cared about?" My first reaction to that was, "Holy f*cking cow!! 5 MILLION is more than most people make in a lifetime! She'd probably look back and feel pretty damn good that one night pretty much set her up for life." Guess I'm not the most sentimental when it comes to virginity, but frankly I'm just left thinking "why didn't I think of that?" lol. |
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Post by strawberrysweetie on Dec 13, 2011 10:16:54 GMT -5
. . . but frankly I'm just left thinking "why didn't I think of that?" lol. yeah, I'm not gonna lie....a part of me has recently been thinking that it's actually sort of brilliant.  |
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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on Dec 13, 2011 19:41:28 GMT -5
I was considering doing this on Facebook but I think it flies in the face of their policies.
It depends where you're from. Everybody I've met in my life lost it around 15 or 16 which I would say was about average, but I've met loads of people who lost it at 12 or 13. We have a very liberal attitude in the UK and thus there's more pressure to lose it.
It doesn't bother me. I'm 21 and a virgin. Never even had a girlfriend. Haven't even kissed anyone. Meh. Who cares? Never gonna happen. It doesn't bother me.
Although if anyone's ever in the northeast of the UK anytime...
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Post by Tal on Dec 14, 2011 18:54:53 GMT -5
Sadly I don't think anyone will buy a guy's virginity...in fact we'd probably have to pay to get rid of it... |
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Post by 1229 on Dec 14, 2011 22:56:24 GMT -5
I didn't think of that at all. I was too busy taking the "girl" approach of thinking sex should be with someone you love and trust. But damn, $5 million is a pretty good pay out too. I couldn't do something like that but power to her!  |
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Post by Stranger on Dec 15, 2011 2:35:15 GMT -5
Sadly I don't think anyone will buy a guy's virginity...in fact we'd probably have to pay to get rid of it... Hey, can't hurt to try.  |
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Post by casanova2 on Dec 29, 2011 3:00:57 GMT -5
Yeah a guy's virginity is seen different and a guy can feel embarrased and see it as a big issue male pride thing i think and macho.
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Post by Sexy Spork #37 on Dec 29, 2011 16:30:22 GMT -5
I would say it was entirely down to peer pressure, certainly in the UK where most people lose it at 15 or 16. From my experience, that's such a common age to lose your virginity that being a virgin any time after is just depressing.
For me, it's not about being macho. I suppose at a deeper level its more to do with a desire to feel normal. I know it's not the same, but take mobile phones for example. I don't have one when it's safe to say the majority of people do these days in this country. I'm generally regarded as not normal for that, when I am, but there's something that I can't get rid of in the back of my head telling me I'm not normal. For me, that psychology is transferable to a guy's virginity. Just anyone, take it - I don't even want money. You could give me a button for all I care. This is the way my society conditioned me.
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