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Post by Sweet Pea on Jun 17, 2013 1:30:39 GMT -5
amazing! after a 'lone gunman' loses it and shoots a bunch of people, i'm used to seeing stuff like this - "Others who knew the gunman, described by family as somewhat socially awkward but bright, have begun to come forward as well. Olivia DeVivo, a former classmate, says that she saw signs but didn’t want to vilify someone simply based on casual acquaintance. ““He was very different and very shy and didn’t make an effort to interact with anybody". But lo and behold, in this article someone actually said - "but you can’t say every shy person would do something like this".www.loop21.com/life/adam-lanzas-former-babysitter-others-speak-out |
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Post by Astroruss on Jun 17, 2013 2:37:35 GMT -5
There is some truth to this kind of article, though. Happy extroverts don't destroy things or kill people. But us loners are isolated from people and hurt by them, and spreading the pain around is a very effective way of MAKING them understand our problems.  But unfortunatly, it also proves to be a one way path to self destruction. But for one who has nothing to lose, this is a fair and even bargain. I know all about this, I'm afraid. Some young men can get so depressed and frustrated that they'll take it out on other people or things. For me, guilty as charged. I used to get so super frustrated with myself in my teens and early twenties. I couldn't make anything work in my life; school was hard and conflicting, I wasn't accepted in class and was frequently attacked in class for my opinions and beliefs, my friends didn't keep in touch with me and found lives of their own, I had no gfs, I couldn't (and still can't) find a good, well paying regular job, and had quite a knack for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time in social situations.  I don't approve of what Lanza did in Conn, but I do understand why he did it. It scares me sometimes, but that crazy, isolated loner on the destructive rampage could definitely be me. I don't think I could kill children or adults for that matter, but spreading the pain and misery around to a percieved group of humiliators is definitely appealing to me sometimes in my more depressed, enraged times.  |
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Post by Sweet Pea on Jun 19, 2013 23:29:04 GMT -5
I don't approve of what Lanza did in Conn, but I do understand why he did it. It scares me sometimes, but that crazy, isolated loner on the destructive rampage could definitely be me. I don't think I could kill children or adults for that matter, but spreading the pain and misery around to a percieved group of humiliators is definitely appealing to me sometimes in my more depressed, enraged times. alrighty then! no more guns for you!  |
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Post by Astroruss on Jun 20, 2013 2:35:49 GMT -5
I don't approve of what Lanza did in Conn, but I do understand why he did it. It scares me sometimes, but that crazy, isolated loner on the destructive rampage could definitely be me. I don't think I could kill children or adults for that matter, but spreading the pain and misery around to a percieved group of humiliators is definitely appealing to me sometimes in my more depressed, enraged times. alrighty then! no more guns for you! Don't worry Pea, I shoot only coke cans, deer, and ducks, and hogs.  Anyway, my point is that anyone can be driven to insane acts given enough pain, misery, depression, and loneliness. The most dangerous enemy is the one who has nothing to lose and doesn't mind losing. Guns aren't the problem, and we've seen that with guys blowing people up with pipe bombs and pressure cookers and knives. Guns too, yes, but not always. The solution is to help these isolated loners, not brand them and humiliate them more. And that's what the media is doing with articles like this. |
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Post by Grayback on Jun 20, 2013 13:01:58 GMT -5
In my opinion, one of the reasons the media world is always trying to find one or several scapegoats ( video games in particular have been an easy target for such accusations lately ) to point a finger at when such an awful tragedy happens is because they can't admit that society in general is partially guilty. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to find excuses for the people that commit these horrible acts but I do believe that society has to hold some of the blame for this because it failed to integrate these people. Society gave up on them even before they gave up on it. It saddens me greatly because this will continue so long as the world we live in is so full of selfishness and hate and it's not likely going to change anytime soon.
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Post by Sweet Pea on Jun 24, 2013 0:36:52 GMT -5
In my opinion, one of the reasons the media world is always trying to find one or several scapegoats ( video games in particular have been an easy target for such accusations lately ) to point a finger at when such an awful tragedy happens is because they can't admit that society in general is partially guilty. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to find excuses for the people that commit these horrible acts but I do believe that society has to hold some of the blame for this because it failed to integrate these people. Society gave up on them even before they gave up on it. It saddens me greatly because this will continue so long as the world we live in is so full of selfishness and hate and it's not likely going to change anytime soon. i would have to agree.  |
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Post by Sweet Pea on Jun 24, 2013 0:41:09 GMT -5
alrighty then! no more guns for you! Don't worry Pea, I shoot only coke cans, deer, and ducks, and hogs. Anyway, my point is that anyone can be driven to insane acts given enough pain, misery, depression, and loneliness. The most dangerous enemy is the one who has nothing to lose and doesn't mind losing. Guns aren't the problem, and we've seen that with guys blowing people up with pipe bombs and pressure cookers and knives. Guns too, yes, but not always. The solution is to help these isolated loners, not brand them and humiliate them more. And that's what the media is doing with articles like this. i agree. it's sad to see someone who has been largely ignored and marginalized by society suddenly become the object of hatred and attacks by millions. if they'd have given him a fraction of the attention - positive attention - years earlier, perhaps this never would have happened. people with autism suffer much negative attention as a matter of course, everywhere they go, unfortunately. and in our society we have such a tendency to scapegoat people. sigh... |
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Post by Astroruss on Jun 24, 2013 23:02:21 GMT -5
Don't worry Pea, I shoot only coke cans, deer, and ducks, and hogs. Anyway, my point is that anyone can be driven to insane acts given enough pain, misery, depression, and loneliness. The most dangerous enemy is the one who has nothing to lose and doesn't mind losing. Guns aren't the problem, and we've seen that with guys blowing people up with pipe bombs and pressure cookers and knives. Guns too, yes, but not always. The solution is to help these isolated loners, not brand them and humiliate them more. And that's what the media is doing with articles like this. i agree. it's sad to see someone who has been largely ignored and marginalized by society suddenly become the object of hatred and attacks by millions. if they'd have given him a fraction of the attention - positive attention - years earlier, perhaps this never would have happened. people with autism suffer much negative attention as a matter of course, everywhere they go, unfortunately. and in our society we have such a tendency to scapegoat people. sigh... I agree; I don't judge people for being different, as i myself am quite a bit different from most men I know here in the American south. But as much as the news media and its producers like to think, they are NOT promoters of equality and tolerance and diversity. They merely promulgate a new, different type of fashionable, acceptable types of people and behavior in our society. We should all take steps to reach a helping or friendly hand to the oddballs of our cultures. |
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Post by Astroruss on Jun 24, 2013 23:06:07 GMT -5
In my opinion, one of the reasons the media world is always trying to find one or several scapegoats ( video games in particular have been an easy target for such accusations lately ) to point a finger at when such an awful tragedy happens is because they can't admit that society in general is partially guilty. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to find excuses for the people that commit these horrible acts but I do believe that society has to hold some of the blame for this because it failed to integrate these people. Society gave up on them even before they gave up on it. It saddens me greatly because this will continue so long as the world we live in is so full of selfishness and hate and it's not likely going to change anytime soon. I think the news media in general just like report nothing but bad news and smear people for higher ratings.  |
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