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Post by christfollower on Mar 29, 2006 20:01:57 GMT -5
Isdima - has anyone here said it would cause violence or even hinted toward that?
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Post by HybridMoment on Mar 29, 2006 20:52:11 GMT -5
I think it should be legalized based on the principal that the government's job is not to make laws to protect its citizens from harming themselves. It happens all the time, but I think those laws are wrong. I would personally never use any psychoactive drug (I rarely even take medicine), but I think other people should have the freedom to use marijuana and face what ever harmful or useful consequences happen to them.
I guess if it marijuana actually increased crime, then I could see a reason for keeping it illegal. But it's doubtful that it increases crime, except right now becaue it's illegal. The same is not true for the drug meth, in which a direct correlation can be seen between drug use and drug related crime in an area in many cases.
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Post by christfollower on Mar 30, 2006 0:53:55 GMT -5
it does not matter what the citizens want, it is what the government mandates.
Sweet Pea, you give valid points as to why it should be, but if you also look at history - we, the citizens are along for the ride. Our voice doesn't do much on capitol hill due to the large lobbyist. There has to be a major shift in policy on the hill for anything to change.
question - who will grow the drugs? do we leave it in the hands of the drug cartel? or do we let pharmaceutical companies take over?
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Post by christfollower on Mar 30, 2006 1:49:44 GMT -5
Sweet Pea, you asked my oppinion on the subject.
My forum name is for a reason.
What do you think my oppinion is? If you can, why?
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Post by MrNice on Mar 30, 2006 10:07:26 GMT -5
I said it - I said that marijuanna does not make people violent and so it is safer for people to be high in publiv then to be drunk in public
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Post by wonkothesane on Mar 30, 2006 14:04:16 GMT -5
Legalisation- maybe? Decriminalise using it deffinitely, it is a waste of time, and frankly smells a bit facist, trying to prevent people exploring their desire in the privacy of their own home: causes cancer, makes you heart beat faster, kills brain cell- ban everything we're all going to die- anyway you can eat it and not get those nasty carcenegins (i think that's how you spell it)!!!!!!! Gateway drug- bullshit, if you have an addictive personality that will finds its way out whether with drinking, drugs, gambling, shoping , surfing the internet....uh-oh There is a problem with the strenght of a lot of stuff today which is a lot higher than even 10 years ago, so getting it out of the underground is probably good idea. I think the fairest solution would probably involve allowing people to grow it at home for personal use, that way it's not freely available in shops and the government doesn't look like the drug dealer, the purity can be regulated by the species available (anybody doing experimental botany is going to do it anyway ) and hey it nice to have greenery in your home Drug cartels will always exist aslong as there is a multi billion dollar demand out there, I do not think that will change aslong as people need a form of escapism- and there is nothing wrong with that from time to time. I probably posted this all before but hey who needs short term memory.
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Post by skyhint on Mar 30, 2006 16:36:58 GMT -5
Ok - but would this lead to a larger problem in society for those who did not abide by the law. Would more people start using it? If yes, then would that create a bigger burden to law enforcement, what about employees in jobs that affect the safety of others - would more be likely to show up to work high? we do have a precendence to look at with alcohol prohibition in the US. in that case the very problems that prohibition was designed to solve became very much worse. then they made marijuana illegal and the same pattern has followed. a very small 'problem' has become a very large problem, and one that is very expensive to the taxpayers. if we learn from history, we will legalize and regulate marijuana the same way we do alcohol. Marijuanna busts pay for themselves with the large fines these people are given.
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Post by airburst on Mar 31, 2006 1:18:44 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with what Hybrid said. Prohibition didn't work in the 30's and it's not working now.
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Post by christfollower on Mar 31, 2006 3:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by kriz on Mar 31, 2006 18:34:58 GMT -5
I have never smoked marijuana so I can't really say for sure; but I thought marijuana wasn't addicting? Also I wouldn't trust those government 'facts', christfollower. "Cancer of the respiratory tract and lungs may also be promoted by marijuana smoke" <- that's government lingo for "We actually have no idea if this is true or not but we're writing it anyway to support our claims." Besides - everything is carcinogenic these days. I'd say that it's just another case of using a substance vs abusing it. Also: One of my favorite episodes of The Simpsons is when Homer smokes medicinal marijuana.
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Post by christfollower on Apr 1, 2006 0:10:35 GMT -5
Just showing the site were the site sweet pea posted got its info. drugsense used the government site for its main source. think it is ironic that info from the government is good as long as it suites your point, but if it doesn't - don't believe it.
I am not saying I believe the gov site, but placed it for debate.
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Post by Buzzz on Apr 4, 2006 22:55:31 GMT -5
If alcohol and tobacco are legal, marijuana should be too. Although I can't understand why anyone would use any of those.
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Post by nats on May 22, 2006 11:59:43 GMT -5
I don't necessarily like it, but i think the police spend too much time trying to convict people just for growing or carrying a small amount of cannabis, while there are real drug dealers, dealing in things like heroin, not being caught.
Plus, many people who smoke it go on to more serious drugs, but this is generally to do with having to go to dealers to buy it rather than anything else.
I don't know, it's just my opinion, but through personal experience i'd say legalise it, or at least make it less serious for just now.
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Post by christfollower on May 22, 2006 23:06:50 GMT -5
Maybe, but as long as the majority of the citizens want it to be criminalized and illegal then it will stay that way. One day it might be leagal, but that is still a few years away - maybe another generation or two.
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Post by Sweet Pea on May 23, 2006 11:02:19 GMT -5
maybe everyone should just light one up simultaneously and the debate would be over.
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