Suicides

[Jarous]

CaryGrant said:

I have spoken with many men who have taught overseas, and they had no problem getting g/fs, and in many cases, ended up married

I wonder if these people had problems getting girlfriends at home? To me, the very idea of shy singles travelling abroad to date or even marry is quite ridiculous. But then I can be wrong. Perhaps the unfamiliar enviroment would have positive effects on shyness? I mean forcing you to open more while trying to socialise and find out how to fit into a foreign society?

[traveljunkie]

"I wonder if these people had problems getting girlfriends at home? To me, the very idea of shy singles travelling abroad to date or even marry is quite ridiculous. But then I can be wrong. Perhaps the unfamiliar enviroment would have positive effects on shyness? I mean forcing you to open more while trying to socialise and find out how to fit into a foreign society?"

I lived in australia for about 6 months. I wasn't really looking to date just just expressing my love of travel, hence traveljunkie.

I found it alot easier to come out of my shell being overseas. My accent was a great opnener at a shop or club. The women would always ask if i was an american. After stating that I was the conversation would roll on from there. Either into flings or casual dating. It was great! Also, being in a foreign place forces you to be more confident. Having to ask alot of questions on how to get around, speaking with other travelers, exchanging money at banks ect ect.

It also gives the most important thing. Life experiences. Something to talk about with people. It is very difficult gaining real life experience staying home all the time.

After this experience I have thought about going back to school and getting a degree in teaching. So that I can travel more and meet more ladies. ;D

[Ghost]

traveljunkie said:

After this experience I have thought about going back to school and getting a degree in teaching. So that I can travel more and meet more ladies. ;D

*Snickers* I wonder what you will answer if someone would ask "Why do you study to become a teacher?" "Because I'm gonna be a all around chick magnet! Yeah baby!" ;D

It is easier to open up in other places/countries. I have to come out and take care of business because it is a strange place. And as tourist I feel more anonymous then in my hometown. Also, as tourist you have a license to nag and act however you want: you're a tourist.

I wouldn't say "everyone, go forth and multiply outside the boarders of your country". People should be able to get a partner closer by. It is a bit of a strange thought to think that you have more chance on succeeding in having a relationship if it is nowhere near home. It is like "why do easy when I can do it the hard way" But it has it's advantages, looking at home for a sweetheart and looking for import luv ;D

[embarassed]

I've tried twice. Once when I was 14 and then again at 29. At 14 I had a cutting problem and was really depressed. I cut my thigh really deeply one night and had the thought that I if I just cut deeper I would just bleed out and all the things I couldn't say to the world. Anyway, it hurt like hell and I passed out. Apparently blood clots and when I woke up I called an abulance and lied to my parents about a fall with a knife and not realizing how deep it was. They were lazy & gullable.
At 29 I was dumped and I got really drunk and tried to crash my car into a tree. I know, dumbass move, but the car died and it was his ;>
I guess what I want to say it that it's always an embarassing, lazy nd stupid move. It is never glamourous or tragic. We all fail. There's no excuses for giving up, ever. There is always another
choice. And the next day could always be better or worse. There's always ice cream and pizza and beer which are better than some guys tagging your toe and putting you on a shelf.

[Jarous]

Ooh, embarassed, my thigh hurts like hell only by reading this. I hate blood - especially mine .
Surely there's more to life than pizza - damn, it's hard to think about what exactly with a delicious cheese pizza in front of you...

[Ghost]

More to life than pizza?
My life has been invain?..!

*Panics to think of what Ghost has been missing out on*

I remember I had a small cut in my finger. But it was a deep cut, but it bled as if I was a bloodbank. I couldn't touch anything without painting it red. It must've looked silly to see a jittery Ghost to search and search for plaster for just a small cut.

[Jarous]

Ghost, I know what you mean. Although they would seem laughable in light of what embarassed endured I especially hate finger/hand cuts (I am exeptionally clumsy with knives). The pain and the uncertainty when you clutch your hand balled afraid to look at the extend of the wound... Most irritating is the nasty tendention of hand wounds to reopen every so often, though.

[Ghost]

Jarous said:

(I am exeptionally clumsy with knives).

Good! I am not sure if it would be a good sign if you had a unusual expertise with knives

Oh yes...it's a pain that hand wounds want just pop open, just when they're healing. I had all kinds of small papercuts in two fingers, not too long ago and it was such a hinderance. It's not that it hurt much, but it is just that my hand is partly immobile and it took long too heal.

[spitzig]

Methods of suicides that are likely to fail(or have someone "save you") are often "cries for help". Men are expected to be tough, independent, and not need help. So, maybe women are more likely to choose methods with low rates of success because of this difference.

As far as guns, I'd guess men are more likely to own guns. Maybe people just go for the methods that are easiest and available.

Overdosing is often a bad way to off oneself. Lots of the drugs take a long time, allowing people to save them. Sometimes people have side effects from attempts, like brain damage due to lack of oxygen in the brain. Also, some of the methods of overdose are extremely painful. Like, extreme puking.

Interestingly, women are much more likely to get therapy, but men are much more likely to get therapy related to shyness.

[Jarous]

You're right, spitzig, so many suicides are nothing more than stupid (or only desperate and resigned, who I am to judge?) ways of attracting attention. People think they lifes suck, do something like that, inadvertantly damage their bodies - like brain by overdosing - and find that now their lifes suck ten times more. To make matters even worse, they get much unwanted attention and are probably looked down at.

Extreme puking, what's that?

[spitzig]

Jarous said:

You're right, spitzig, so many suicides are nothing more than stupid (or only desperate and resigned, who I am to judge?) ways of attracting attention. People think they lifes suck, do something like that, inadvertantly damage their bodies - like brain by overdosing - and find that now their lifes suck ten times more. To make matters even worse, they get much unwanted attention and are probably looked down at.

And, apparently with guns, the people often live, only now they only have half a face.

Extreme puking, what's that?

I was trying to avoid saying. I can't remember exactly. I couldn't find a reference online, either. When I puke, it's usually only for a brief period, or several brief periods(with short breaks in between). I thinking it was more like your stomach violently convulsing for a day or two continuously. So, puking for a long time with no nice breaks.

[depressedagain]

yeah right now im contemplating suicide, what sucks though is that I'm a guy and all the traits that are most common with women are common with me. I have s.a.d and my reputation was alterly brought down to a desperate/softie loner view, from two different actions that I regretably took. Funny how in highschool, if you do one thing that may seem desperate, like asking a girl out before you really get to know her, it sure does spread...at least where I go to school. Anyways, the point is I want to do it, but I fear death aswell, I feel cursed and though i was made as a man for others to look upon and feel better about themselves for knowing their not me.

[Julie]

I think that men commit suiside more than women because maybe the life pressures seem harder.. This is kinda hard to explain.. But First lets think of a man.. maybe under pressure from work.. Who knows.. possible loss of job.. majority are married.. and could also be having marriage problems or a complete break down.. OK so most families have children.. and The women normally gain custody.. Maybe again this would add more stress.. All these situations could also be similar for a woman.. BUT ..

IF the woman is responsible for her children (as equally a father is.. ) Living with them is harder for someone to give up on them .. As for the father maybe not having them is unbearable to live with..

Therefore thats why I think men are more likely to commit suiside.. IF the situations were reversed and the father gained custody.. the women was homeless, jobless, maybe statistics would be different.. I'm not saying that a womans life is any easier than a man's and depression is depression.. But somethings in life keep people going.. and even though suiside may often be a thought.. Its less likely to be so..

As for the country maybe that is based around similar circumstances but also based on their social system or support someone would get..

Have i confused all ? haha