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Post by shypsychologyguy on Feb 8, 2006 13:46:24 GMT -5
the funeral was three hours long and in attendance was president bush who sat behind the podium. Jimmy Carter when speaking got off on how Katrina was a failure of the administration due to racism. He also got on the wire tapping contreversy. There was also a black speaker who also took shots at the president.
is this inaprropriate behavior for a funeral, and is if it is would it be appropriate had the president not been in attendance.
kudos to President Clinton for not being political and to President Bush for taking it civilly.
really if blacks hate bush why would he want to be in attaendance. Blacks have never given the president a fair shake when he has had the most african americans apointed to his cabinent. Of course we all know they are sell-outs to the white man.
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Post by wagnerr on Feb 8, 2006 21:35:25 GMT -5
I think it was tacky to bring up a political position at a funeral. I just attended a funeral last week myself, with a group of academics who largely oppose the Bush administration, and no political dialogue was ever brought up during the service.
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Post by sushiboat on Feb 8, 2006 21:45:03 GMT -5
I think it was tacky to bring up a political position at a funeral. I just attended a funeral last week myself, with a group of academics who largely oppose the Bush administration, and no political dialogue was ever brought up during the service. Coretta Scott King's adult life was political. If she had been able to speak at her own funeral, don't you think she would have ripped Bush a new one?
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Post by wagnerr on Feb 8, 2006 21:58:21 GMT -5
I think it was tacky to bring up a political position at a funeral. I just attended a funeral last week myself, with a group of academics who largely oppose the Bush administration, and no political dialogue was ever brought up during the service. Coretta Scott King's adult life was political. If she had been able to speak at her own funeral, don't you think she would have ripped Bush a new one? No, i don't. Politics is just not something you would alude to at a funeral.
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Post by Buzzz on Feb 8, 2006 22:19:26 GMT -5
Bush, to his credit, did well, as did Clinton (as usual ). Carter pushed it a little with the wiretapping comments, but they were still relevant. But that black preacher (don't remember his name) who mentioned WMDs crossed the line. That didn't have anything to do with anything. But of course, as one of my profs noted today, black funerals are a lot different than "white" funerals.
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Post by shypsychologyguy on Feb 8, 2006 23:00:15 GMT -5
so who is that in your avatar she looks like someone i should know
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Post by Buzzz on Feb 8, 2006 23:16:01 GMT -5
so who is that in your avatar she looks like someone i should know "She?"
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Post by shytothebone on Feb 9, 2006 2:12:48 GMT -5
Jimmy Carter is a nut job like no one has ever seen.
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Post by zaab on Feb 9, 2006 2:53:35 GMT -5
Jimmy Carter is a nut job like no one has ever seen. I've seen much worse, and one such nut job is in his second term as prez.
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Post by Buzzz on Feb 9, 2006 12:11:26 GMT -5
Jimmy Carter is a nut job like no one has ever seen. He got beat by a bigger nutjob. Are you and I thinking of the same Jimmy Carter?
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Post by wagnerr on Feb 9, 2006 13:58:19 GMT -5
Jimmy Carter is a nut job like no one has ever seen. He got beat by a bigger nutjob. Are you and I thinking of the same Jimmy Carter? I wonder why Carter is still walking around in the political atmosphere anyways? He's in his eighties for crying out loud. I would think he'd be off having fun retiring.
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Post by shypsychologyguy on Feb 9, 2006 17:29:32 GMT -5
he is making up for being a weak/ passive president through his post presidential activism/crap.
oh by the way zaab you dodged the question this is a fair question to ask.
is it appropriate behavior from the dems regardless of the president. say this happens with republicans with a democratic president would it be acceptable.
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Post by zaab on Feb 9, 2006 21:29:52 GMT -5
he is making up for being a weak/ passive president through his post presidential activism/crap. oh by the way zaab you dodged the question this is a fair question to ask. is it appropriate behavior from the dems regardless of the president. say this happens with republicans with a democratic president would it be acceptable. Sheesh, I feel like I'm on an episode of Crossfire now. I'm not sure a question was asked of me. I was responding to the accusation that Jimmy Carter was a nutcase. He was probably an ineffectual president, but he is definitely an amazing person. I think W deserves alot more scrutiny. We're talking about the most scandalous, law flaunting president in our lifetimes. Under his regime, there have been illicit wiretappings, exposure of a CIA operative, lieing to get us into war, illegal torture, the arrest and imprisonment of innocents in Guantanamo, the acruement of massive debt while cutting taxes for the rich and canceling programs for the poor, the gutting of the environment, censorship of the media, a huge rift in our relationship with the rest of the world, programs that put significant limits on our freedom and privacy, fear mongering, the possible robbery of an election (or two) and as a result a dismantling of the democratic process, the list goes on and on and on, and these are only the things we know of so far. So yes, its fair to question this president and, imo, if the system was working as it should, he would have long since been impeached and thrown out of office.
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Post by shypsychologyguy on Feb 9, 2006 21:53:01 GMT -5
The question was is using a funeral as a platform to say poltical views appropriate and does it make a difference with the president being there or not being there?
zaab just answer the question . its a yes or no question.
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Post by zaab on Feb 9, 2006 22:03:10 GMT -5
The question was is using a funeral as a platform to say poltical views appropriate and does it make a difference with the president being there or not being there? zaab just answer the question . its a yes or no question. Bill O' Reily, is that you? In the spirit of Coretta Scott King and her late husband, I will say yes. They spent their lives speaking truth to power and doing the same at the funeral honors their memory.
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