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Post by Naptaq on Sept 3, 2008 18:13:02 GMT -5
what terrorists? what area? is this all the explanation you need to justify invading a sovereign country? can you answer this question: what was the connection between Iraq and terrorism before the war? 9/11 changed how US is handling terrorism and when those WMDs intelligence came out... they acted.
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Post by Naptaq on Sept 3, 2008 18:33:45 GMT -5
what are your opinions based on Reason. The fact that America is spending large amounts of money on war is logical, but there is no proof that the US administration did that to hurt the American people [via cost], so that a small elite could profit. The intention, in this 'war on terror' as far as I can tell, is to prevent another terrorist attack. And so far it's been succesful.
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Post by MrNice on Sept 3, 2008 18:46:31 GMT -5
what WMD intelligence? since you couldn't answer the previous question at all I'll assume you don't know the answer to this one either, but here is how I remember things
the intelligence suggested that there was no WMD in Iraq the case of going to war was made mostly on the fact that saddam was not being nice to the weapons inspectors, and at the end when he finally balked and said he will show everything we said too late but there was very little, if any, evidence that there are really WMD in Iraq all in all Iraq had little to do with terrorism and its fairly obvious that terrorism was not the cause of Iraq war
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Post by Sweet Pea on Sept 3, 2008 20:32:14 GMT -5
what are your opinions based on Reason. The fact that America is spending large amounts of money on war is logical, but there is no proof that the US administration did that to hurt the American people [via cost], so that a small elite could profit. The intention, in this 'war on terror' as far as I can tell, is to prevent another terrorist attack. And so far it's been succesful. that's a fallacious statement. causation cannot be demonstrated or proven. if i stand out in my yard with a foil hat on my head to prevent mars from crashing into the earth, and then afterwards mars does not crash into the earth, that does not mean that me standing in my yard with a foil hat on my head actually successfully prevented mars from crashing into the earth.
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Post by Naptaq on Sept 4, 2008 4:09:35 GMT -5
that's a fallacious statement. causation cannot be demonstrated or proven. if i stand out in my yard with a foil hat on my head to prevent mars from crashing into the earth, and then afterwards mars does not crash into the earth, that does not mean that me standing in my yard with a foil hat on my head actually successfully prevented mars from crashing into the earth. It was proven on September 11, 2001 that they are willing to blow themself up. In your example, yeah causation is imaginery. Preventing terrorism is a different thing, because terrorism is real.
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Post by Naptaq on Sept 4, 2008 6:58:49 GMT -5
Obama needs to come on The O'Reilly Factor and clear some things up. He was like against the war, against drilling and now he says he'll go to Afganistan harder and maybe Pakistan? And he'd drill, but just a bit? Enough with the softball questions already. Looks like he will indeed appear on The O'Reilly Factor. He's a smart man for doing it and will he'll get hammered by the far-left because of their Fox News hatred. It think the interview might help Obama a lot, but we'll see. As far as media spotlight goes it has been all Ms. Palin for a few days and Obama will not be denied of the media spotlight! The ratings will be through the roof.
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Post by Sweet Pea on Sept 4, 2008 8:36:57 GMT -5
that's a fallacious statement. causation cannot be demonstrated or proven. if i stand out in my yard with a foil hat on my head to prevent mars from crashing into the earth, and then afterwards mars does not crash into the earth, that does not mean that me standing in my yard with a foil hat on my head actually successfully prevented mars from crashing into the earth. It was proven on September 11, 2001 that they are willing to blow themself up. In your example, yeah causation is imaginery. Preventing terrorism is a different thing, because terrorism is real. of course it is. but who is actually behind the terrorist acts can sometimes be difficult to ascertain.
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Post by MrNice on Sept 4, 2008 9:55:28 GMT -5
that is why we should go after everyone
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Post by Naptaq on Sept 5, 2008 15:05:35 GMT -5
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Post by Sweet Pea on Sept 5, 2008 19:07:35 GMT -5
ugh.
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Post by Knox on Sept 7, 2008 11:54:35 GMT -5
in my humble opinion..... this election.. is like having to choose between eating a bowl of dog shit.. or.... eating a plate of dog shit..... ;D
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Post by Sweet Pea on Sept 7, 2008 12:51:06 GMT -5
in my humble opinion..... this election.. is like having to choose between eating a bowl of dog shit.. or.... eating a plate of dog shit..... ;D ain't that the truth!
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Post by Naptaq on Sept 9, 2008 14:40:07 GMT -5
Obama on O'Reilly Factor. part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5i8rQiCgZIVery interesting and lively interview. I think that's the first time I've heard a Democrat talk about cutting and raising taxes. Interesting proposition. Obama's intentions are good and he basicly want the top earning 5% of the population to carry the other 95% (who also get the tax cuts).
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Post by MrNice on Sept 9, 2008 15:43:12 GMT -5
what a great idea
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Post by Sweet Pea on Sept 9, 2008 17:42:27 GMT -5
Obama's intentions are good and he basicly want the top earning 5% of the population to carry the other 95% (who also get the tax cuts). carry? oh please!
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