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Post by wapwawet on Nov 17, 2008 1:49:32 GMT -5
I agree you do need some sort of personality to supplement the looks. Thing with SA is...despite other compliments, you don't really take them seriously, ya know? I put my picture up on some site, and I was called "very cute" or "sexy" by most. I would say that is somewhat above average But when it comes to interactin with them in RL, damn...I suck lol. And then there were the negative comments made by my (male) acquaintences. One was like "you're sooo ugly" just out of nowhere, but he admits he is crappy with women, so...it's hard to determine what is jealousy, or whatever. But then there are the more secure ones that'll sort of compliment me. Obviously I'm much more concerned with women's opinions, but you can't just go up to them and ask them that! I think I have trouble reading nonverbal cues, b/c of the anxiety. yeah, when you're under the gun, anxiety makes you focus on the wrong things. haha, yea, that's too for sure
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Post by madiocre on Nov 17, 2008 3:05:26 GMT -5
i think women have a very wide taste . what one likes is a lot different to what another one likes...very more so then men because the media is less definite in what it offers up as the male species.
As for the importance of looks its about half of the deal for sure and it include things such as the way you carry yourself and dress.
also if guys tell you you are ugly ...is it because they are jealous or are they just clueless on what it is we actually like . i would take the girl's opinion as more important then the men's when it comes to your attractiveness.
think of it this way if you had 2 friends talking about a girl and you asked if she was hot and the girl said no but the guy said yes who would you believe more .
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Post by wapwawet on Nov 17, 2008 5:40:48 GMT -5
i think women have a very wide taste . what one likes is a lot different to what another one likes...very more so then men because the media is less definite in what it offers up as the male species. As for the importance of looks its about half of the deal for sure and it include things such as the way you carry yourself and dress. also if guys tell you you are ugly ...is it because they are jealous or are they just clueless on what it is we actually like . i would take the girl's opinion as more important then the men's when it comes to your attractiveness. think of it this way if you had 2 friends talking about a girl and you asked if she was hot and the girl said no but the guy said yes who would you believe more . You make some good points jess. But, I am trying to build some muscle to improve my self-esteem in the looks department, as I am a little to thin but am seeing some progress already. Maybe if I became more intimidating they'd shut up.
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Nov 17, 2008 6:22:47 GMT -5
If you are getting lots of attention from girls, then you are most likely attractive.
Same with girls.
For example, when a hot girl posts her picture here, lots of guys comment on her. Same when a hot guy does.
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Post by wapwawet on Nov 17, 2008 8:58:48 GMT -5
If you are getting lots of attention from girls, then you are most likely attractive. Same with girls. For example, when a hot girl posts her picture here, lots of guys comment on her. Same when a hot guy does. See, b/c of the SA I don't go out much besides work, and at work I pretty much have the reputation of being a quiet guy. But, there were more than a few times female co-workers or customers would come up to me, or through other co-workers they would compliment me. But, this one co-worker mentioned something about me having a girlfriend, and another (guy) co-worker said "what? he has a girlfriend, are you kidding me?" like it was so surprising, or something. I asked him why and he said I was ugly, but the dudes that say that are absolutely horrible with women. It just seems weird, b/c other guys who work there don't get ridiculed like that (to their faces), and let's just say they aren't exactly lookers, most of them. I try to be confident, but then situations like that keep coming up in my mind, and I feel terrible. It would be different if I knew looks didn't matter, but I know they most certainly do. It's hard to know where I stand.
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Post by Sweet Pea on Nov 17, 2008 9:28:36 GMT -5
i think women have a very wide taste . what one likes is a lot different to what another one likes...very more so then men because the media is less definite in what it offers up as the male species. As for the importance of looks its about half of the deal for sure and it include things such as the way you carry yourself and dress. also if guys tell you you are ugly ...is it because they are jealous or are they just clueless on what it is we actually like . i would take the girl's opinion as more important then the men's when it comes to your attractiveness. think of it this way if you had 2 friends talking about a girl and you asked if she was hot and the girl said no but the guy said yes who would you believe more . You make some good points jess. But, I am trying to build some muscle to improve my self-esteem in the looks department, as I am a little to thin but am seeing some progress already. Maybe if I became more intimidating they'd shut up. lots of girls prefer skinny guys. i'm one of them. be careful of focusing too much on what the guys think of you. when it comes to making it with women, who cares what the guys think of your look?
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Post by wapwawet on Nov 17, 2008 9:45:50 GMT -5
You make some good points jess. But, I am trying to build some muscle to improve my self-esteem in the looks department, as I am a little to thin but am seeing some progress already. Maybe if I became more intimidating they'd shut up. lots of girls prefer skinny guys. i'm one of them. be careful of focusing too much on what the guys think of you. when it comes to making it with women, who cares what the guys think of your look? true, I shouldn't really care what they think. As for the "skinny guys" comment, well, I'm a little too thin for my height so I'm just trying to gain a few extra pounds. Not too much more I want to gain, but I don't want to be labelled as rail thin either hehe
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Post by MrNice on Nov 17, 2008 10:22:10 GMT -5
your looks will give you some attention, but nothing more so don't worry about it no matter what you look like, it doesn't change much in terms of your own behavior and strategy
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Nov 17, 2008 13:39:15 GMT -5
See, b/c of the SA I don't go out much besides work, and at work I pretty much have the reputation of being a quiet guy. But, there were more than a few times female co-workers or customers would come up to me, or through other co-workers they would compliment me. But, this one co-worker mentioned something about me having a girlfriend, and another (guy) co-worker said "what? he has a girlfriend, are you kidding me?" like it was so surprising, or something. I asked him why and he said I was ugly, but the dudes that say that are absolutely horrible with women. It just seems weird, b/c other guys who work there don't get ridiculed like that (to their faces), and let's just say they aren't exactly lookers, most of them. I try to be confident, but then situations like that keep coming up in my mind, and I feel terrible. It would be different if I knew looks didn't matter, but I know they most certainly do. It's hard to know where I stand. Guys will say another guy is ugly even when they aren't because of competition. Same reason hot girls get the dirty looks from other women. Competition. It matters nothing if a guy thinks you are hot does it? You're not planning to get naked with a man. Just post your picture on the pic thread here.
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Post by wapwawet on Nov 18, 2008 3:05:03 GMT -5
See, b/c of the SA I don't go out much besides work, and at work I pretty much have the reputation of being a quiet guy. But, there were more than a few times female co-workers or customers would come up to me, or through other co-workers they would compliment me. But, this one co-worker mentioned something about me having a girlfriend, and another (guy) co-worker said "what? he has a girlfriend, are you kidding me?" like it was so surprising, or something. I asked him why and he said I was ugly, but the dudes that say that are absolutely horrible with women. It just seems weird, b/c other guys who work there don't get ridiculed like that (to their faces), and let's just say they aren't exactly lookers, most of them. I try to be confident, but then situations like that keep coming up in my mind, and I feel terrible. It would be different if I knew looks didn't matter, but I know they most certainly do. It's hard to know where I stand. Guys will say another guy is ugly even when they aren't because of competition. Same reason hot girls get the dirty looks from other women. Competition. It matters nothing if a guy thinks you are hot does it? You're not planning to get naked with a man. Just post your picture on the pic thread here. That probably wouldn't help me out any, I've done it on other forums and they say I have nothing o wory about, or say I'm very attractive etc. Maybe they are just being polite? Who knows, really.
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Nov 18, 2008 3:57:45 GMT -5
Guys will say another guy is ugly even when they aren't because of competition. Same reason hot girls get the dirty looks from other women. Competition. It matters nothing if a guy thinks you are hot does it? You're not planning to get naked with a man. Just post your picture on the pic thread here. That probably wouldn't help me out any, I've done it on other forums and they say I have nothing o wory about, or say I'm very attractive etc. Maybe they are just being polite? Who knows, really. Oh come on now. People on line have no reason to say things just to be polite.
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Post by wapwawet on Nov 22, 2008 1:41:23 GMT -5
Well, I guess this one memory kinda sticks out for me, but it seemed to concern more than jus one person. I was talking to a co-worker, saying some movie looked average, and he said "your face is pretty average" then he added "thats just what I heard...from other people." Which bugged the hell outta me, I asked him who he was talking about and he said he was just joking, or whatever. Maybe he knew something I didn't?
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Post by Sweet Pea on Nov 22, 2008 9:52:40 GMT -5
Well, I guess this one memory kinda sticks out for me, but it seemed to concern more than jus one person. I was talking to a co-worker, saying some movie looked average, and he said "your face is pretty average" then he added "thats just what I heard...from other people." Which bugged the hell outta me, I asked him who he was talking about and he said he was just joking, or whatever. Maybe he knew something I didn't? sounds like something a not-too-bright, socially-inept person would say thinking they're are funny.
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Post by wapwawet on Nov 22, 2008 9:58:04 GMT -5
Well, I guess this one memory kinda sticks out for me, but it seemed to concern more than jus one person. I was talking to a co-worker, saying some movie looked average, and he said "your face is pretty average" then he added "thats just what I heard...from other people." Which bugged the hell outta me, I asked him who he was talking about and he said he was just joking, or whatever. Maybe he knew something I didn't? sounds like something a not-too-bright, socially-inept person would say thinking they're are funny. Yeah, you'd be amazed at the amount of people that are like that where I work. Specifically, the "not too bright" thing, lol.
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Post by Sweet Pea on Nov 22, 2008 10:28:16 GMT -5
sounds like something a not-too-bright, socially-inept person would say thinking they're are funny. Yeah, you'd be amazed at the amount of people that are like that where I work. Specifically, the "not too bright" thing, lol. actually, i don't think i would be amazed...cuz i've experienced that too...which is one of the reasons i prefer jobs where i work alone.
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