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Post by christfollower on Mar 29, 2006 4:35:36 GMT -5
it does not have to be a physical addiction to be an addiction. Many people have mental addictions, speeding, games, chat rooms, etc... Just because it does not make the body addicted does not mean the person's mind does not get addicted.
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Post by christfollower on Mar 29, 2006 4:42:55 GMT -5
Not saying others would have to be legalized, it is that it opens the door for other drugs to be legalized. It is just commonsense. Look back in history and you will see that the change in view in one thing opens the door for other similar things. Besides this is not the only reason I gave in why it won't be legalized.
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Post by christfollower on Mar 29, 2006 5:11:38 GMT -5
Because, for the last 52 to 60 years alcohol was not seen as a drug. Only recently. Besides, the use of other drugs did not become a problem till the 1960's with the free movement.
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Post by shypsychologyguy on Mar 29, 2006 12:53:07 GMT -5
what would be the benifits of legalizing it other than for medical use of which a pill form would be best. smoking anything is not good for the lungs.
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Post by wagnerr on Mar 29, 2006 14:41:26 GMT -5
Any mind altering compound carries a risk of addiction. You use a drug often enough, legal or illegal, and you'll become addicted to it. I don't buy all this medical garbage nowadays that says marijuana is not addictive. I also don't buy all these supposed medical facts that say marijuana is not bad for you. Try smoking a joint every day for a year or two and see what it does to you. Furthermore, i'm all for making tobacco use illegal too. Too many people abuse it already, too many people develop helath problems from it. Often from second hand smoke caused by smokers; you don't even have to smoke the cigarette, just live in the house of a couple of smokers for several years. Instead of legalizing more drugs, we should curb the availibility of the existing drugs already abused in our country. Just because marijuana and tobacco are natural plants doesn't mean they're not dangerous and unhealthy.
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Post by Crashtastic on Mar 29, 2006 14:55:53 GMT -5
yes thats whatim talking about people. Crash are you giving me the cold shoulder? lol no
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Post by wagnerr on Mar 29, 2006 15:47:50 GMT -5
what would be the benifits of legalizing it other than for medical use of which a pill form would be best. smoking anything is not good for the lungs. why haven't we made cigarettes and cigars illegal then. why haven't we made everything that is in some way not good for the body illegal? That's my point too. I think we should. A govt has the responsibility to regulate product production and consumption for the public's good.
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Post by christfollower on Mar 29, 2006 16:46:12 GMT -5
The govenment has started this process - how many places allow smoking now?
First - tobacco has a very deep root in this country, did you know that tobacco paid for the American Revolution? It is a part of this country that is funded with large amounts of money. Since it was here at the beginning and was not seen as a problem like alcohol until the last 20 years then it was kinda grandfathered in. The change is starting, but it will be slow. There has already been a big change since I was a kid. Besides your talking about the government - when have they ever been consistent on anything "except taxes and their own raises".
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Post by skyhint on Mar 29, 2006 16:46:19 GMT -5
You can't get 2nd hand drunk, but you can get high from being in the same room as someone lighting up.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
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Post by christfollower on Mar 29, 2006 17:10:52 GMT -5
The planet - NO, the US YES. One day it will be. When - probably not in mine or your lifetime.
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Post by reddragon on Mar 29, 2006 17:21:15 GMT -5
Me I believe in live and let live. If people want to drink, smoke pot, inject heroin let them. So long as they don't hurt me don't interfere with my life and my rights why should I interfere with theirs.
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Post by wagnerr on Mar 29, 2006 17:24:10 GMT -5
That's my point too. I think we should. A govt has the responsibility to regulate product production and consumption for the public's good. then why aren't we being consistent? why are cigarettes and alcohol legal and marijuana illegal? you haven't given me the reason. That's because i don't have an answer for you, except for money. It's profitable to allow tobacco to continue to operate through cig taxes. I think they should all be illegal, myself, because i know how weak willed most people are. If a product's available, and well advertised, people will buy it.
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Post by Paulinus on Mar 29, 2006 17:37:16 GMT -5
what about the principle of personal liberty this country was founded upon? could that be why we allow people to do things that we may feel are not in their best interests? It could be argued though that its infringing on others personal liberty if they have to breath in the smoke.
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Post by wagnerr on Mar 29, 2006 17:41:12 GMT -5
That's because i don't have an answer for you, except for money. It's profitable to allow tobacco to continue to operate through cig taxes. I think they should all be illegal, myself, because i know how weak willed most people are. If a product's available, and well advertised, people will buy it. what about the principle of personal liberty this country was founded upon? could that be why we allow people to do things that we may feel are not in their best interests? I know. You're probably right about that. I just know how easy it is to abuse something like alcohol. It can too easily get out of control; i myself abused alcohol for the better part of a year before i slowed it down to only occasional drinking. But people should not be allowed to hurt themselves like this, either. People need help to resist such enormous temptations. And as tough as life is for so many people, chain smoking or drinking or getting stoned is a potential means of escape for people, even though it's a self destructive one.
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Post by Samantha on Mar 29, 2006 18:28:41 GMT -5
But people should not be allowed to hurt themselves like this, either. People need help to resist such enormous temptations. And as tough as life is for so many people, chain smoking or drinking or getting stoned is a potential means of escape for people, even though it's a self destructive one. Yes to weed. No to nanny state. Unless she tucks me in at night ;D
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