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Post by annaa on Feb 15, 2008 23:59:14 GMT -5
Tough on poor souls like myself. Anna! Stop that this minute! Don't let lsdima make you feel bad about yourself! Not everyone has the same mindset as he does! I know when I read these posts I have a grim look upon guys in general...but then I have to tell myself not all guys are like this. Oh, and I wasn't yelling at you ;D You're right. I have to keep that in mind. It's just guys like him made my like a living hell. |
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Post by annaa on Feb 16, 2008 0:02:14 GMT -5
You blatantly said that a guy cannot be happy with an overweight woman. So try again.
the issue is really simple - extra weight is not attractive the issue is really simple - extra weight is not attractive extra weight is not attractive |
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Post by phoenixferret on Feb 16, 2008 0:08:35 GMT -5
because he doesn't really like her - if he is aware of the fact that he is 'settling' its not going to be a good relationship a guy cannot be happy with an overweight woman --------------------------------------------------------------------- I just don't see how these two are the same Ok, I'm a little tired of trying to coax you into saying what you mean. You're going to have to find a way to explain this on your own, or just leave it at that. Oh, nice composite, Anna. Yeah, I think that about sums up my interpretation.  |
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Feb 16, 2008 0:13:01 GMT -5
Lsdima, your opinion is just that.
Not everyone thinks like you do.
So you think everyone with an overweight person is unhappy and settling?
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Post by MrNice on Feb 16, 2008 0:16:53 GMT -5
I think that someone that thinks they are settling is unhappy
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Post by lennythegiant on Feb 16, 2008 0:32:09 GMT -5
I understand perfectly it seems that you actually agree with me on my main point - because its common sense - although its tough to admit What's common sense? That getting in shape improves their chances, or that extra weight can't be attractive? Because yes, it's possible that getting in shape could improve one's chances of being more physically attractive for people. It could also lead to a boost of confidence which could also be attractive. That feeling of accomplishment that comes with getting in shape is great. But some people have a real problem with it. I'm sure there is a ton of people that try their damndest to get in shape, and it's physically tougher for them to do it. Maybe you think that this whole "it's the inside that counts" is a punch of PC crap, but there is a whole lot of truth to it. Yes, someone's physical attractiveness can be a first impression, but there's a whole lot more to being date-able or likable than that. There are times when people say "why is she going out with him?" or vice versa. It's because they realized something they really liked about that person, and it went beyond how they looked. Maybe completely thinking that the world should be all about "inner beauty" is naive, but at the same time thinking that only the people who meet society's standards for what's good looking have any chance of a happy relationship is naive too. I think that someone that thinks they are settling is unhappyYes, but just because you think that they should think that they're settling doesn't mean that they are. Maybe they are genuinely happy with that person. |
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Post by carboncopy on Feb 16, 2008 0:33:29 GMT -5
This is a fairly simple matter. Men don't find grossly overweight women attractive. Someone mentioned "chubby chasers" as an alternative, but I doubt that any self-respecting female individual would find that to be a desirable portion of the male population. This is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Those are guys who either have let their standards very low, or they have a fat fetish, which is usually not tied to the entire body anyway, but related to breasts or the rear section.
There is no point in being angry about this. It's just a simple fact. Men prefer women that are thin or within a reasonable scale. Little extra fat is not a deterrent to any but the most nitpicky men.
One thing that I am surprised at (in this thread and other observations) is that women seem to categorically deny that men might prefer thin or at least proportional women. I mean - what is wrong with that? Telling an overweight woman that she has a chance with most men defies common sense. It's just not how it works. In a perfect world it might, but not in ours.
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Post by MrNice on Feb 16, 2008 0:40:08 GMT -5
I don't think they SHOULD think that
where are getting that from?
if they are genuinely happy then they don't think they are settling
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Post by lennythegiant on Feb 16, 2008 0:40:12 GMT -5
This is a fairly simple matter. Men don't find grossly overweight women attractive. Someone mentioned "chubby chasers" as an alternative, but I doubt that any self-respecting female individual would find that to be a desirable portion of the male population. This is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Those are guys who either have let their standards very low, or they have a fat fetish, which is usually not tied to the entire body anyway, but related to breasts or the rear section. There is no point in being angry about this. It's just a simple fact. Men prefer women that are thin or within a reasonable scale. Little extra fat is not a deterrent to any but the most nitpicky men. One thing that I am surprised at (in this thread and other observations) is that women seem to categorically deny that men might prefer thin or at least proportional women. I mean - what is wrong with that? Telling an overweight woman that she has a chance with most men defies common sense. It's just not how it works. In a perfect world it might, but not in ours. Overweight women can manage to get in relationships, because for some men, it really isn't that big an issue. Yes, it's true that generally men find a woman who looks to be in shape attractive. But at the same time, it isn't everything. Personality counts for a lot, too. Someone can find an overweight woman attractive because of their personality or how they can be confident about themselves regardless of their weight. I don't think they SHOULD think that where are getting that from? "The issue is simple-extra weight is not attractive". That's where I got that from. |
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Post by Astroruss on Feb 16, 2008 0:47:35 GMT -5
This is a fairly simple matter. Men don't find grossly overweight women attractive. Someone mentioned "chubby chasers" as an alternative, but I doubt that any self-respecting female individual would find that to be a desirable portion of the male population. This is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Those are guys who either have let their standards very low, or they have a fat fetish, which is usually not tied to the entire body anyway, but related to breasts or the rear section. There is no point in being angry about this. It's just a simple fact. Men prefer women that are thin or within a reasonable scale. Little extra fat is not a deterrent to any but the most nitpicky men. One thing that I am surprised at (in this thread and other observations) is that women seem to categorically deny that men might prefer thin or at least proportional women. I mean - what is wrong with that? Telling an overweight woman that she has a chance with most men defies common sense. It's just not how it works. In a perfect world it might, but not in ours. Oh blah blah blah.  Come on, yall! Men are attracted to women who are healthy and make them feel happy. It's as simple as that. A few extra pounds wouldn't deter me from dating an otherwise charming woman. Good grief. Hell, just take my own parents as an example. They have been married for over 35 years and, yes, are very overweight. Hell, i'm probably the thinnest person in my family and i'm not a Speedo underwear model either.   But if being overweight is a detterrent to relationships, then you must be living on an entirely different planet than mine. Everywhere i look in public i see couples who obese or otherwise unhealthy. Hell, i'd even argue that it's the good looking people who make the worst partners in life. Being good looking becomes a real, full time job as life goes on, and it dominates some peoples' entire outlook. Why else do celebrities and models have such short relationships?  It's not about looks; it's about personality and mindset. And if you have a personality and a healthy, respectful mindset, you will attract like minded people around you. |
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Post by carboncopy on Feb 16, 2008 0:48:35 GMT -5
What's common sense? That getting in shape improves their chances, or that extra weight can't be attractive? Because yes, it's possible that getting in shape could improve one's chances of being more physically attractive for people. It could also lead to a boost of confidence which could also be attractive. That feeling of accomplishment that comes with getting in shape is great. Getting in shape increases chances of finding a romantic partner in both sexes. No doubt about that so it's hard to say what you are trying to prove. But some people have a real problem with it. I'm sure there is a ton of people that try their damndest to get in shape, and it's physically tougher for them to do it. There are some people who have illnesses that make them obese. One can do nothing, but feel sorry for them. Just like someone who was born a dwarf - he/she can't help but be a butt of short people jokes their entire life. In most cases that is not the reason though. I have a slow metabolism myself so I know first hand how difficult it is to keep a slim silhouette. I run at least 3 miles a day and play several sports on a daily basis. That BARELY allows me to keep a reasonable weight. Maybe you think that this whole "it's the inside that counts" is a punch of PC crap, but there is a whole lot of truth to it. Yes, someone's physical attractiveness can be a first impression, but there's a whole lot more to being date-able or likable than that. There are times when people say "why is she going out with him?" or vice versa. It's because they realized something they really liked about that person, and it went beyond how they looked. I have yet to see someone sexually captivated by someone else's mind... honestly - if that was the case then I would have to be married to my male friends who are some of the smartest people I've ever met. There is an inherent need for attraction that simply cannot be discarded. I see that you are in a stage where you are just trying to please everyone with politically correct statements, but if you do a little genuine introspection you will find them to be pretty far from reality. |
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Post by Astroruss on Feb 16, 2008 0:50:19 GMT -5
Anna! Stop that this minute! Don't let lsdima make you feel bad about yourself! Not everyone has the same mindset as he does! I know when I read these posts I have a grim look upon guys in general...but then I have to tell myself not all guys are like this. Oh, and I wasn't yelling at you ;D You're right. I have to keep that in mind. It's just guys like him made my like a living hell. Well, guys/gals like that proliferate like insects. They buzz around others trying to suck the lifeblood out of people because that's their evolved form of nutrition. The solution; Buy a fogger, and read the manual carefully. |
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Post by annaa on Feb 16, 2008 0:50:21 GMT -5
There are some people who have illnesses that make them obese. One can do nothing, but feel sorry for them... In most cases that is not the reason though... Part of my soul is dying. Priceless, that really is. I wonder if people will shag me or flirt with me out of sympathy? ...Well, guys/gals like that proliferate like insects. They buzz around others trying to suck the lifeblood out of people because that's their evolved form of nutrition. You've just reminded me of some shamanic healing I had a while back.... that's a good thing (for me, anyway). |
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Post by carboncopy on Feb 16, 2008 0:54:47 GMT -5
There are some people who have illnesses that make them obese. One can do nothing, but feel sorry for them... In most cases that is not the reason though... Part of my soul is dying. Priceless, that really is. Why?? Is it also dying for men who were born 2 inches of vertical height too short to be taken seriously by women? Tell me that it is and I'll hug you. |
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Post by pnoopiepnats on Feb 16, 2008 0:56:26 GMT -5
I'm sure all the guys who are making the fat girl comments are specimens of male perfection.
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