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Post by lowselfesteem on Jan 9, 2006 6:06:08 GMT -5
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Post by gSteve on Jan 9, 2006 12:48:12 GMT -5
I think regulating your thoughts is just too harsh. I don't think merely thinking about a woman with lust is a sin. Its almost impossible to control your thoughts sometimes, so expecting people to follow this is absurd. If thinking about a woman with lust is a sin then I must be commiting a sin every 5 minutes. |
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Post by GreenFerret on Jan 9, 2006 13:08:43 GMT -5
I think regulating your thoughts is just too harsh. I don't think merely thinking about a woman with lust is a sin. Its almost impossible to control your thoughts sometimes, so expecting people to follow this is absurd. If thinking about a woman with lust is a sin then I must be commiting a sin every 5 minutes. I thought it was s'posed to be every seven seconds  Either way--that's a crapload of sin!  ;D |
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Post by lennythegiant on Apr 8, 2007 2:27:45 GMT -5
Its the age old question so I thought I'd post it here for discussion. Why do bad things happen to good people? Such as why do innocent children die, while murderers get away with killing people. These kind of seemingly unjust things happen all the time in the world. If you don't believe in God than its just random and nothing means anything, therefore these things are easily explained. But if you believe in a just, all-powerful God who can control things, then how could he let it happen? I personally am agnostic and believe that if there is a God, he has no control over our lives. He merely set things into motion. If he does have control he's doing a terrible job at it. And I hope no one says everything does have a good reason, because I can not contemplate the good reason to have thousands of children dying of starvation everyday in the world. I'm Christian and feel that the reason is probably because God does not directly control the goings on of the universe, He set it in motion but gave the universe free will to continue on as it will. I don't like it either when people say some sort of tragedy was "God's plan". I doubt God intends for innocent kids to die before their time, but the universe was given free will to operate on its own and that means bad things happen to innocents. Also, on the subject of that Bible quote about committing adultery in your heart, when I first heard of that when I was younger I tried to keep my mind clean, and I lasted all of one day. Nobody's perfect, and I doubt the Almighty expects you to be. I see it as a guideline to try to discourage people from being completely horny bastards all the time. |
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Post by cradith on Apr 23, 2007 12:35:33 GMT -5
I went back to Church for 3 months after my mother died, yes it helped me but I went for the Mother's Day celebration anfd the priest kept on going on about mother's the whole time I felt like I was in a Hallmark commercial instead of Church I stopped going. Wouldn't we all be shocked if God was a woman or was asexual. Cause we can't really trust the monks that translated the bible from Hebrew into latin into english.
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Post by MC on Apr 25, 2007 19:41:18 GMT -5
I think good/bad things are amoral. They happen randomly. Somehow I'm more and more inclined to think that. Take the students killed at Virgina Tech..I don't even wanna figure out (if I can) how many of those are religious/good/evil. Bullets in, you die.
I sound rather cold but this incident totally reinforced my belief.
(I'm an agnostic who doesn't do enough thinking (maybe) to become atheist or religious.)
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Post by audioalone on Oct 24, 2007 15:08:36 GMT -5
Yes, and a lot of times good things happen to bad people. For instance, a thief might obtain a computer or some other thing they steal, and not get caught. And to not take up too much time, there are other examples one can think of.
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Post by Astroruss on Oct 24, 2007 23:57:09 GMT -5
I went back to Church for 3 months after my mother died, yes it helped me but I went for the Mother's Day celebration anfd the priest kept on going on about mother's the whole time I felt like I was in a Hallmark commercial instead of Church I stopped going. Wouldn't we all be shocked if God was a woman or was asexual. Cause we can't really trust the monks that translated the bible from Hebrew into latin into english. You missed a few languages, there.  It went from Hebrew into Aramaic, then Greek, then Hellenistic Greek, then into Latin, French, English, and Italian, now into Spanish, Chinese, Sikh, and just about every other language on the Earth. Oh, and don't forget about the Zoroastrians and Muslims and their own versions, and oh, we must not forget the King James Version and the Morman and Gideons! Oh! And my God, how could we ever forget the Talmud!!! Jesus, the very thought of straining my eyes for so many thousands of pages of the Hebrew writings and their interpretations gives me a migraine just thinking about it!!!  How many translatons of the same book do we need? My God! Let's go back to the Greek and stick with that!! The Original and Best. Hehehe, seriously, i do agree with you, man. Hell, the collections that made up the Holy Bible of the Christian World have been rewritten and revised so many times that the original meanings have been lost. Oh, and i also think that God is beyond the human definition of gender. |
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Post by Sweet Pea on Oct 25, 2007 0:03:45 GMT -5
It went from Hebrew into Aramaic, then Greek, then Hellenistic Greek, then into Latin, French, English, and Italian, now into Spanish, Chinese, Sikh, and just about every other language on the Earth. Oh, and don't forget about the Zoroastrians and Muslims and their own versions, and oh, we must not forget the King James Version and the Morman and Gideons! Oh! And my God, how could we ever forget the Talmud!!! Jesus, the very thought of straining my eyes for so many thousands of pages of the Hebrew writings and their interpretations gives me a migraine just thinking about it!!! How many translatons of the same book do we need? My God! Let's go back to the Greek and stick with that!! The Original and Best. Hehehe, seriously, i do agree with you, man. Hell, the collections that made up the Holy Bible of the Christian World have been rewritten and revised so many times that the original meanings have been lost. sigh...sounds exhausting...all in all i think i'd rather read the funny papers...  |
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Post by Astroruss on Oct 25, 2007 1:52:17 GMT -5
It went from Hebrew into Aramaic, then Greek, then Hellenistic Greek, then into Latin, French, English, and Italian, now into Spanish, Chinese, Sikh, and just about every other language on the Earth. Oh, and don't forget about the Zoroastrians and Muslims and their own versions, and oh, we must not forget the King James Version and the Morman and Gideons! Oh! And my God, how could we ever forget the Talmud!!! Jesus, the very thought of straining my eyes for so many thousands of pages of the Hebrew writings and their interpretations gives me a migraine just thinking about it!!! How many translatons of the same book do we need? My God! Let's go back to the Greek and stick with that!! The Original and Best. Hehehe, seriously, i do agree with you, man. Hell, the collections that made up the Holy Bible of the Christian World have been rewritten and revised so many times that the original meanings have been lost. sigh...sounds exhausting...all in all i think i'd rather read the funny papers... Indeed. Charlie Brown and Marmaduke are every bit as enlightening as the Christ's teachings and his apostles. Wow, i just re-read through all the pages of this debate we had last year. My goodness, did i really write all that stuff? Man, i hope i'm not starting to forget all that Biblical and Philosophical education i had.  I'm starting to get soft. I need to return to my transcription of the New Unfundamental Philosophical Understanding of the Cosmos. I shall call it the New Method, for short. Look out Descartes, here i come!!  |
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Post by Naptaq on Oct 25, 2007 19:08:23 GMT -5
karma
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Post by annaa on Oct 25, 2007 19:54:49 GMT -5
Possibly. Some people believe that even your thoughts can cause positive/negative karma. |
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Post by Naptaq on Oct 26, 2007 6:46:36 GMT -5
Possibly. Some people believe that even your thoughts can cause positive/negative karma. Possibly. I know that intention behind the act is very important. Killing somebody by choise or by accident is very diffrent. non-denominational Christian PriestI've heard Wayne Dyer say this too. That you choose your parents before you're born. It's an interesting thing but hard to "prove" cus, you know, hardly anybody remembers and people like that priest are very rare. I guess some people choose to experience what they did to others in previous lifetimes, so I guess certain "bad" are actually a good thing. But of course they don't seem that way.. You can't really learn life lessons and such and say no to evil if you're in heavenly realm and everything's blissful and everyone's happy.. I think the conditions you're born in are pretty good for each person's development. It's just so hard man... |
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Post by Sweet Pea on Oct 26, 2007 7:47:09 GMT -5
this is an interesting idea to toy with until you actually have really bad things happen to you, then you realize it's just a way for people to ignore those less fortunate and blame the victim. i think belief in this karma crap is just another form of calvinism in the western world. it's all about not having to do anything to help the less fortunate and feel okay about being well off while those around you are suffering imo.
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Post by Naptaq on Oct 26, 2007 8:37:14 GMT -5
this is an interesting idea to toy with until you actually have really bad things happen to you, then you realize it's just a way for people to ignore those less fortunate and blame the victim. i think belief in this karma crap is just another form of calvinism in the western world. it's all about not having to do anything to help the less fortunate and feel okay about being well off while those around you are suffering imo. Well I don't belive in the accidents crap, no offence. God does not throw the dice and say "Sorry George the dice feel off the table, i'm gonna make you stupid and ratarded and make you suffer." And the other kid got lucky and was born into a rich family perfectly healthy, by accident.. yeah right. I did not imply that we should not help the "less fortunate" people, however, the idea that you should feel guilty or something because you're better off than those who suffer is kinda ridicolus, to me anyway. |
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I'm starting to get soft. I need to return to my transcription of the New Unfundamental Philosophical Understanding of the Cosmos. 